Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

A bad guy is someone who accidentally shoots his toddler in the face. A good guy is that same person 10 seconds before he accidentally shoots his toddler in the face.

Here in my home state of Minnesota, Governor Dayton announced today that he would sign state Senate bill SF878, an omnibus bill that includes several provisions for relaxing current firearms restrictions:
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[li]Suppressors are now legal (though still Federally regulated NFA items)[/li][li]Firearms now cannot be summarily confiscated in a state of emergency[/li][li]The requirement that permit holders send in a special notification form before carrying on state capitol grounds is rescinded (was redundant given the permit holders’ registry)[/li][li]Reworded state law to eliminate possible interpretation that buying long guns from non-contiguous states was illegal[/li][li]Reworded law regarding carry reciprocity with other states to open more states to honor MN permits.[/li][/ul]
This will of course open a tide of bloodshed and death :stuck_out_tongue: NOT!

I clicked to FoxNews on another matter and saw another story especially featured:

My question is: What??!? Is this what we’ve come to? Cliven Bundy shoots at cops doing their jobs and is a hero. U.S. seizes illegal gun parts and it’s another anti-gummint headline.

I’ll bet fellow libtards will agree with me. I want to hear from the gun nuts.

I can’t help you with Cliven Bundy. I might be able to help you with the Stag Arms issue. Briefly, Stag Arms was cited for having ~3,000 AR-15 lower receivers within their factory that had not been affixed with a serial number within seven days after their manufacture. The seven days marking requirement is not in the relevant statute, 18 U.S.C. § 923(i), but is BATFE’s stated interpretation of the statute.

The lower receiver on an AR-15 is the part that, when completed, is the “firearm” as far as the BATFE is concerned. As a firearm, it needs a serial number. 26 U.S. Code § 5842. Stag Arms makes roughly 15,000 AR-15s a month. 3,000 lower receivers is therefore about one week’s production for them. One of their excuses for not ‘serializing’ the receivers is that the guy responsible for doing it was on vacation.

BATFE does not claim that any of the receivers entered the stream of commerce, or indeed even left Stag Arms’s factory. For one, the lower receivers were not anodized yet, something AIUI Stag Arms does to all of its lowers before sale, but has nothing to do with whether a lower receiver is sufficiently complete to be considered a firearm.

A BATFE special agent noted a stack of lower receivers on one day, and noticed that the same stack on a visit a week later didn’t have serial numbers yet. That’s basically the controversy, though no doubt BATFE will find other paperwork screwups if Stag’s manufacturing process allowed for this kind of easily foreseeable fault to occur.

No excuses. The law is whatever we say it is.

Shoot 'em all. God will know his own.

Interesting. From your link:

I’m assuming that’s why BATFE’s “7-day” interpretation exists. The longer unstamped receivers sit around the factory, the higher the likelihood that they’ll walk off, get stamped with a duplicate number, or accidentally get shipped out without one. Too much room for shenanigans.

I also note that there were 3,000 unstamped receivers, of which only 10% were seized. Of that, 2/3rds were apparently returned (or intend to be), so we’re talking about a whopping 100 receivers. On the one hand, seems like the BATFE should slap their wrist or whatever they intend to do and let them stamp and then sell those receivers. On the other hand, I can’t get my panties in a bunch over 100 receivers for a company that makes 15,000 of them a month.

Is this just news because ZOMG FEDS CONFISCATE GUNS JUST LIKE WE SAID THEY WOULD!!! alarmism?

Anyone who is not a prohibited person. Felons, underage, mentally ill, etc.

If you wanted to create some other reasonable requirements for a license to carry a gun in public (like taking a safety course or something), I would not object.

Do you have a link? Stag firearms is a pretty large gun manufacturer. I highly doubt they traffic in illegal firearms.

And I’m sure we could pass those sorts of laws if it weren’t for those pesky Democrats.

I think you are more excited about this fox news bullshit than most gun enthusiasts.

Cracking down on manufacturers for regulatory violations is not news any more than the government cracking down on a gun store that is sloppy with how it secures its inventory at night.

First of all, I’m a Democrat. I think being a Democrat is about as relevant to the gun debate as it is to the abortion debate. There are plenty of pro-life Democrats just like there are pro-gun Democrats.

The opportunity to pass those sort of laws are few and far in between. And when those opportunities arise, the hoplophobes screw it up. In fact (as I posted above) LBJ tried to pass laws like that after RFK was assassinated but it got held up in committee by some hoplophobe from Connecticut and the legislation died in committee. What we ended up with was the Gun Control Act of 1968 which created an imperfect scheme of background checks and licensed firearm dealers. There is no guarantee that LBJ could have passed licensing and registration but LBJ was a peculiarly adept legislator and no one could count votes better than him. He thought the legislation could pass if acted upon quickly and with the support of his own party but unfortunately, the hoplophobes of his party stonewalled him long enough to eliminate any chance of the legislation passing.

Let’s not forget that Leeroy Jenkins wouldn’t have been able to screw anything up if there hadn’t been a dungeon full of monsters in the first place.

Always with the lame excuses, huh, Damuri? It’s always somebody else’s fault, often even somebody imaginary, but somebody else in any case. Always.

When the decidedly left-leaning Washington Post makes the same point, it may be a little more than a lame excuse.

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While it was of course the ‘evil gun lobby’ that defeated universal registration, it was delays from his own side that created the opportunity for them to do so.

The senator from Connecticut that derailed LBJ’s legislation was not imaginary. There was a real opportunity to get universal gun registration and licensing but the gun control side of the debate is mostly run by hoplophobes who are ignorant about guns and gun issues, they just know that guns scare them and they want to get rid of them.

Wait. You mean that the gun rights side of the debate is not obligated to cooperate with gun control side of the debate to advance the gun control agenda? Say it isn’t so.

Guy exercises his open-carry rights by carrying an AR-15 around the Atlanta airport. Why? “It shouldn’t matter what I carry, just that I choose to carry. You never know where something might happen.”

Can’t argue with that - not as long as he’s carrying, anyway. Good thing for him he’s white, though.

What part of something militia something something, the right of craven dickbags to prance around in public with their toys just to scare people and get their names and ugly mugs into the local news shall not be infringed do you not understand?

You forgot to mention there was a 100-round drum attached to the weapon.