Certainly on my list, much higher than solving the gun “crisis” but lower than making sure I remember to buy bread to make sandwiches for my kids lunch tomorrow.
Yeah, you value helium more than the lives of children. No one is surprised by that, you fucking psychopath.
I should commend you though, unlike your fellow Metal Dick Enthusiasts you say the quiet part out loud. Thank you for your honesty.
Sure and so are you. You do absolutely nothing to decrease gun deaths and I would guess any children associated with you are much more scared of being shot then my kids and their friends. The only difference is I don’t spend hours on a message board saying that I hold moral high ground because it’s so terrible I just have to weep.
Thank you for your honesty; most of your ilk pretend to have at least some concern for human life, but bring up points like “God-given rights” or “self defense” as justification. Your far more honest assessment - “I like my shiny metal penis and I don’t care how many kids I’ve never met die for me to have it, their lives mean nothing to me” - is very refreshing.
Yes, I’m not surprised that you get a little frisson of excitement at how frightened other people are of guns. Makes you feel good, doesn’t it?
Meanwhile 95% of schools have mass shooter drills. But you’re teaching your kids not to be afraid of people with guns. Let’s hope you never have cause to regret that.
This thread is full of kids who weren’t afraid of guns. Ended up shooting themselves, their siblings, their parents…
Better to die on your feet at age 5 than live on your knees, you know.
Funny how other Western countries don’t have this as a serious issue. Must be all the freedom.
I believe this is meant to be directed @Babale it is the one jerking it to the gun deaths.
If it was meant to be aimed at me I don’t get it. I spend hours per year teaching kids and adults how to be safe with guns and ensuring they aren’t scared of them (or think of them as toys). I’m taking one of my buddies to a hunters safety course early next year and then I’ll be teaching him to hunt in the fall. I helped talk him out of buying a gun during the early days of COVID and now I’m helping him and his family understand guns and how to use them. Fear is a bad thing.
Yep, my kids school too. It is legitimate to be scared when there is a gun being pointed at you or when someone is trying to point a gun at you. There is no reason to be afraid of guns. In fact 99.99% of the time guns are a lot of fun and if you’re scared of them you’ll be missing out on that fun. My kids are still to young to go shooting but they help me clean my guns and watch the adults while they are shooting. That doesn’t mean they run in front of a person pointing a gun yelling “shoot me” but then again that wouldn’t be lack of fear but a lack of intelligence. Hopefully you learn the difference.
Which is why it’s important to teach kids about guns from an early age. My kids don’t have toy guns to run around pointing at their friends and saying bang. I would ban toy guns long before I banned the real thing.
I am sure the list of things you would ban before banning guns is never ending.
How many rounds does your magazine need to hold to shoot deer?
Does a deer killing gun need to be small enough to be concealed under a jacket?
Should a deer hunter plan on being able to fire 10 rounds at his target in 10 seconds?
Guns designed to kill people hold many more rounds than are needed to kill deer, are often made small enough to be concealed, and are made to shoot far more rounds far more rapidly than anyone deer hunting would ever expect to do.
Yes, a gun designed to kill a 250lb man will also handily kill a 250lb buck, but that isn’t really the same thing as being designed to kill deer.
Until they do. Responsible gun owners kill people every day.
No, it’s definitely you. You claim I’m not doing enough to fight gun violence, even as you push against such efforts by working to normalize the disproportionately large number of shootings in America.
And so you and your fellow travellers drop such turds as “Ha ha! You idiots don’t even know what kind of gun was used to murder all those schoolchildren!” or “Why are you bothered by that massacre? People drown in swimming pools all the time!” or “Wearing a t-shirt is just as aggressive and threatening as pointing a loaded firearm at someone!” (although I will credit you with not being dumb enough to posit the last one yourself), and never seem to notice the casual validation of mass death you continue to espouse.
But why should you care? The status quo allows you to feel smug and superior to those who don’t think that we should be fine with the current levels of gun violence, plus you get the secret thrill of making them afraid of you. I mean, you know you won’t go on a rampage one day, so it’s all on them, right?
You may not ever contribute to the endless supply of bodies thrown onto the sacrificial pyre to the god of guns, but you’ve made it very clear you’re happy to warm your hands from its glow.
I typically hunt with 6 and then 10 more 9n my butt. I’ve got friends that hunt with one and friends that hunt with 30. So I guess between 1 and 30.
A short barreled rifle has been illegal for 100 years so I would say obviously not. Then again after giving it two seconds of though I know people who hunt deer with handguns. There are a weird group of people.
I can fire 6 in 6 seconds with my bolt action. The fast followup shots are helpful. Once I was hunting on the apache reservation and my guide wanted me to shoot at an elk on the run. I hit her but she didn’t drop and I took 5 follow up shots as she was still running I could have used a couple of extra shots then.
I think you’re confusing rifles and handguns at this point but I’m not sure. I hunt with the shortest barrel possible on my rifle because it allows me to maneuver through the brush much easier. There is no possibility of concerning it though outside of putting it in a guitar case. An AR-15 with a 30 round magazine is the one most people target as too many rounds but it is also no concealable in any way. When we’re talking about small were typically talking about hand guns the largest clip I’m aware of is in a glock and it’s like 30 rounds but there would be no good way you concealed that either since it makes the gun a giant 10" L. It would be like trying to concealed a boomerang. It’s only a semi auto and one bullet one pull of the trigger is normal speed to put rounds down range. I can’t think of any guns that meet your description and legal. Could you give me a couple of examples?
Normally when I see this sentiment it’s aimed at the AR platform and similar rifles. Thousands of people hunt with with AR platform rifles every day. Even more hunt with wooden stocked semi auto rifles. At most the difference is the size of the magazine being used at the moment but there is no reason you couldn’t put a larger magazine in dad’s hunting rifle. From a design stand point they are identical.
My next rifle will be an AR platform with a silencer but I’m not even sure I’d be able to kill someone at more than 30 yards with it. It’s primary purpose will be to fire subsonic 22LR rounds without any kick or noise with a minimum 30 round magazine. It will be a great weapon for our family shoots since anyone will be able to use it. It will meet your criteria (except for conceilabilty) as man killer just as well as my bolt action 308 but I’d pick up the bolt action first if I needed to kill a person.
Sure. An hundreds of millions don’t. I’ll take those odds.
Actually, I would much prefer if you weren’t scared of guns. Scared people are stupid little rabbits and you never know what they’ll do next. Look at the people afraid their daughter will be forced to have abortion they were scared enough to elect Trump. I’m sure an irrationally scared person such as @Babale would vote for the gun grabbing version of Trump tomorrow. We are very likely to get ourselves into a situation where both sides, due to irrational fear, are willing to take dangerous steps to solve their fear.
So no, my secret tingle everytime some talks about their fear of guns is from my hand slapping my forehead. I don’t get the metal penus jokes the gun-fearers make either. If any thing my metal penus was my 2011 challenger str8 and not the guns that sit in my house broken into pieces. The challenger was much more impressive and did make girls want to sleep with me.
If you designed a rifle for the express purpose of hunting deer, you’d give it a 30 round capacity?
I suppose that’s needed for those hunters who like to wound animals then followup with a nice spray and pray before the thing manages to run away and die in a ditch.
No confusion, these are both types of guns that are very popular. Handguns are made to be concealed, made to shoot more rapidly than should be necessary when responsibly hunting, and hold way more rounds than it should take to bring down a deer. As noted, handguns are made to kill people, and are therefore capable of killing deer. As noted, the AR platform, and other semi-auto rifles, are very good at killing deer, because they are very good at killing people, there’s a lot of overlap there, with us both being mammals of a certain size. No surprise that they are popular, but the fact people use them for deer doesn’t imply they were designed for deer.
Your next rifle, AR platform in .22LR, isn’t designed to kill people, or to kill deer, it’s a toy. It’s to have fun with, and frankly, I’d 100% rather people have .22LR guns to play with than 9mm or 5.56 for their funtime family shoots. I’m thinking of picking one up myself for target shooting, bolt action rather than semi-auto, but that’s as much for the feel of cycling the action.
Well, I’d probably make it a fallingblock single shot for the improved accuracy but I would be lying if I said that wasn’t a giant pain in the ass at the range when practicing to go hunt and sight in my rifle for the season. I vastly prefer large magazines when I’m at the range even when it only 1 shot at a time when sighting in. I would choose either the 1 or the 30 but I wouldn’t go with the 6 that I have now.
Ok, that’s fair even 12 gauge shotguns are used on deer in some places and I certainly wouldn’t claim that they are designed with deer hunting in mind. I don’t think that semi auto is the kind that divides a hunting weapon from a people killing weapon since bolt actions are still made for the military and there are lots of good reasons to use a semi-auto in the civilian world. For myself I’ve had a shoulder replacement and I need a semi auto to soften the recoil or I lose function in my arm quickly.
The other side of this is that the Remington 700 platform has probably killed more people then the AR platform but most people would view it as designed for hunting. I think that maybe conceilability would be a decent trait to use as a dividing line but my next handgun purchase will most likely be a glock 20sf. It being a small and concealable weapon makes it a lighter choice for my backpacking gun and I’ll save close to a pound over my .357 even if it will be carried openly. This gun will primarily be for bears, mountain lions, wolves, and coyotes. Though of all my weapons the backpacking gun is the most likely to be used on humans, I doubt my current 357 revolver meets most of your requirements as a people killer.
I wanted to call this out specifically and not bury it in the longer post. I agree completely that it is a toy. It goes to show that not all guns are designed to kill and that features like semi auto, collapsible stock, 30 round magazine or a silencer are not what make a gun into a people killing machine and yet people focus on those features to decide its meant to kill people.
Guns have lots of purposes besides killing people.
This supposed to a news thread, not a debate thread. But I’ll say my peace here since that’s where we are at the moment. I speak for nobody but myself here. I do not support outlawing all guns. But I am very dismayed that responsible gun owners, the gun lobby, and gun manufacturers are doing virtually nothing to address the proliferation of not just gun homicides but mass murders by guns in the U.S. They are just silent on this and do not contribute anything to how we resolve this problem.