Hearing loss all around!
( Cars are pressure-tight containers. Fire a gun in one with the windows closed, good-bye ear drums. Even with multiple windows down, the shell/frame will (amplify? concentrate? focus?) the effect so some hearing loss is a given. It’s the price of stupidity. )
That’s why I wear earplugs when I drive.
Don’t forget safety glasses. Getting glass shards in your eye can affect your aim.
Who said anything about aiming?
If I am aiming, I might miss the bystander.
You know, 4 out of 5 bystanders prefer you not aiming.
( The 5th was hit by the other guy )
The latest posts in this thread remind me of X Marks the Pedwalk (the story, not the band).
Which is why you should stick your arm and head sideways out the window to shoot, you can pay attention to driving in between shots.
We’ve been over it before. You are in a car. Get. Away. from who/whatever’s the problem.
Unfortunately, the child was in the back seat of the problem.
Reason # 126 to not go to Florida (includes the GQP legislature, Grovenator, assorted sycophants, …) - GUN LAWS
Dashcam video is incredible (for some meaning of incred…)
p.s. Somehow, Grovenator didn’t upset my spellchecker.
If “something” struck his vehicle, it seems it would be easy enough to tell if that something was a waterbottle or a bullet.
If the other driver did fire first, then I guess returning fire is justified. Stupid, but if someone’s shooting at you, then I do think you have the right to shoot back.
Doubly stupid because you are endangering the lives of everyone on the road around you.
So, what’s the story on the other driver? If he actually did shoot at Popper, then shouldn’t he be charged?
Hey, it was a bomb that struck his vehicle. Water bomb, but the word bomb is right there in the name of the thing. Why are you supporting cancelling him?
Not sure how you get this. It is never acceptable to shoot at or from a moving vehicle.
I agree. Cars move forward quickly, backwards slowly, and can turn right and left. They can also stop. If someone shoots at you, get away from them. If they are in a hurry, then you stop away from them. Call the police, film the car as best you can, and wait for the patrol car. This whole “drive with one hand, shoot with the other” is Hollywood BS as you’ll likely run into a third car or a guard rail or a tree or a curb or a wall or etc etc. You might even roll your car.
Also, I’m still not convinced that having a loaded gun in your possession/car is a positive when the police come to take the report.
That case of the guy who shot from his car on I-95 in Miami is yet another reason why the “stand your ground” laws are an enormous mistake. And to me, looking at the dashcam footage, it doesn’t appear that he was defending himself. Instead to me, it looks like he’s just shooting blindly. He doesn’t even seem to be looking where he’s shooting.
It’s not a great idea, but in some extremely limited circumstances it may be necessary to protect yourself. If someone is actually shooting out of their vehicle at yours, then I can’t really fault shooting back.
I mean, so can the other car.
And if they want to kill you?
I’m not a fan of stand your ground laws, and in this case, I don’t think it was justified (though the State of Florida apparently thinks it was), but I do think that if someone is shooting at you is a circumstance when you are justified to shoot back. Moving vehicle or no.
Agreed that the circumstances where it works out well are extremely rare to the point of being non-existent. But in principle, if someone is shooting at you while you are trying to drive, then it may take more than just trying to get away from them to get them to stop trying to kill you.
If you just have a legally owned gun in your car, that’s not against the law in Florida, and the cops shouldn’t have a problem with it. If you have used it, then it’s probably better to have it than to try to ditch it and lie about having had it.
In this case, I completely agree.
After the first shot, he was firing blindly. He probably was mostly blind and certainly dazed from the noise. But the first shot looked like that was intended to kill the other driver. He watched as the car started to overtake him with the gun down, and as it came up alongside him, he lifted it to fire.
Unless you are blocked in with no clear path to drive away from the aggressor, I can think of no circumstance where shooting back would make you safer.
Apparently it is now acceptable in Florida.
True Confessions Time: I don’t live in Florida. It is extremely difficult for me to adopt the “Florida Mind Set”. In my state, which has a limiting effect on my POV, you darn well better not ever be caught by the cops ever having a loaded gun in your car.
It is difficult for me to wrap my mind around visiting EPCOT, visiting Universal, and then shooting up gunsels on the way home for kicks. Maybe Florida just isn’t for me.
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♫ When some Ahole shoots your car…! ♫
♫ Doesn’t matter who you are…! ♫
♫ Any shot your gun desires ♫
♫ Will be fired by You…! ♫
“Hey! Domestic Terrorist Florida Man! You just shot dead a family of four on vacation from Atlanta! Where are you going next…?”
“I’m going to Disney World…!”
Looks like that dipshit’s last name is very fitting. I’ve seen 5 year olds with better gun control. Way to shoot the shit out of your own car.
Unbelievable that guy walks free. Florida is now firmly part of the west. The Wild West.
No more unbelievable than the retired policeman who killed a guy in a Florida movie theater because he threw a bag of popcorn at him: