That was a video of annoying things that happened to her. Not of dangerous things that happened to her. There’s a really big gulf between “some random person makes a rude statement” and “dangerous assault”.
I think you’re missing that distinction.
I also think you have chosen not to hear the numerous women who have come to the thread to say, “cut it out, dude, you are not helping. If anything, you are increasing the guilt women feel if they are assaulted.”
Back on the original topic of this thread, I wonder if he regrets fighting the conviction and wishes he had just taken a quiet plea bargain, especially one that had jail time but no sex offender registration, instead of fighting and appealing. The slap on the wrist sentence and “20 minutes of action” comment have brought this into the public consciousness, ‘brock the rapist’ on google brings up the case, and his mugshot as turned up in at least one textbook as an example of a rapist, so he’s going to have to deal with this whenever he tries to get a job, whereas with a plea bargain or just an ordinary conviction it would be easier to pass off as a “youthful indiscretion.” A lot of businesses just aren’t going to want a literal textbook example of a rapist on their staff page.
Also, the judge who gave the six month (three actually served) sentence and was recalled, and who also (in a 2011 case) allowed photos of a different rape victim enjoying herself at a party a year after her rape as evidence that she wasn’t traumatized by rape, got a job as a girl’s tennis team coach. This has led to some seriously outraged parents who don’t want a pro-rape judge coaching their girls. “All athletic coaches have to be mandated reporters for harassment and abuse, and Persky’s language during the trial and decision to focus on supporting the rapist more than the survivor Chanel Miller has made it clear he does not respect the bodily autonomy of women and therefore cannot be an appropriate choice for our tennis coach. That is not the type of person our 14-16-year-old girls on the JV Sports team should have for a coach or mentor.”
If you can show that women are more at risk walking out of a gym, in whatever fashion, than in their own homes and their workplaces, I’d be very interested to see it.
In the meantime, how about you stop advising other people to base their decision-making on your guesses?
– and I have hired quite a lot of contractors, nearly all of them male and some of them jerks in other ways, and I’ve never had any of them try to harass me, or even to ask me out.
Quick update on my comment: Apparently the school district moved fast, and the judge has already lost his position coaching 16 year old girls. Brock Turner case: Judge Aaron Persky fired from tennis coaching job
Look waaaay up there to post #1019:
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21855153&postcount=1019
Not meaning to imply that at all. I simply mean (as was said better by someone else) “we don’t know”. It’s just not a good idea to extrapolate that the reported rate is the actual rate. It may be higher. And yes, it probably is fair to say that male sexual assaults are less likely to be reported.
“A common theme emerging in treating male rape victims is a lost sense of manliness. Male victims voice their concern in reconciling their masculine identity with their experience of being raped. One patient reported that he never disclosed it to his wife of 30 years; the sense of stigma from the rape was felt as huge and devastating.”
-Male Rape: The Silent Victim and the Gender of the Listener - PMC
Most statistics are that about 14-18% of males will have been sexually assaulted by age 18. That we know of. Most of this reporting is around minors. Because they are children, you are more likely to get reporting (for both sexes) because of the mandatory reporting requirements in the medical professions and/or parental involvement. This number doesn’t include the number of assaults reported as adults, though again (as above) men are less likely to report as an adult for a variety of reasons.
-https://1in6.org/get-information/the-1-in-6-statistic/
Regards,
-Bouncer-
I’d like to note that according to this column by a textbook writer who included Brock Turner’s mugshot in a description the crime of “rape” notes that the FBI’s definition of “rape” includes what Turner did (penetrate someone’s vagina with an object) and that subsequent to the conviction the California legislature amended the state’s statutes to encompass what Turner did within the definition of “rape.”
So as a matter of societal views of rape, it seems unnecessary to quibble over whether raping someone using a penis is fundamentally worse than raping someone with fingers and pine needles.
As of today, at least one criminal law textbook author, many of us laypeople, the FBI, and California criminal statutes all consider what Turner did to be rape.
The column – I’m the professor who made Brock Turner the “textbook definition” of a rapist - Vox
Did anybody else see Chanel Miller on 60 Minutes? We already knew that she was articulate and persuasive in a prewritten statement but I think she came across extremely well in the interview setting also. I hope coming forward does not backfire on her but I can appreciate why she wanted to make her identity public (in addition, of course, to selling her book).