You’ve probably heard the frenzy over the “subliminal message” in one of Bush’s ads. But did you hear his comments? In his denial of any knowledge of the “Rats” message, Bush pronounces “subliminal” as “subliminable.” Now, everyone has a slip of the tongue sometimes, and at first I just assumed he garbled what he meant to say. But then he said it the exact same way two more times!!
Please folks, this guy is clearly an idiot. Even if I agreed with his policies, I would be embarrassed to vote for him. Tell me, folks who plan to vote for him, how do you get past this type of thing? It’s not a one time thing, either. He pronounces “statistics” as “satistics,” and we all know about the world leaders quiz debacle. He probably says “nucular” too.
Couldn’t the Republicans have come up with someone better?
Crap, NPR’s webmaster was just teasing me - the outline of the show is down, presumably while they add the audio files. But later today or tomorrow, you can go to http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/ and select “Latest Show” or select the 9/13/00 show to get to the story.
I would also add that the idea that Bush is “clearly an idiot” is itself more idiotic than anything that Bush himself has ever said, or might concievably say. Were this the case it would have manifested itself in more meaningful ways by now.
Couple threads floating around here about this guy. His recent and numerous gaffe’s remind me of the Quayle days.
Since I didn’t add it to the others, I’ll add it here.
A report I heard this morning quoted some gal at a clinic in New York as saying he has a learning disorder. His brother does, and she believes the evidence shows it’s hereditary.
He is going down, for this and other perceived moronacies. Maybe if you Country Club Republicans start apologizing right now, McCain will forgive you and take it 2004.
I plan to vote for Bush. I personally don’t think he is an idiot because of the way that he pronounces a few words.
I took a college course in statistics with a professor who insisted on pronouncing it “satistics”. I don’t know why he did this, but he clearly was a very intelligent man. I have taken other classes and met other people who have weird ways of pronouncing certain words. I don’t believe it means they are stupid.
I also think that people who say Bush is clearly an idiot are not thinking clearly themselves. Bush is not clearly an idiot. Men who are idiots do not make it as far as he has. I would rather vote for a man who has an odd pronunciation of a few words then a man who thinks that he took initiative in inventing the Internet.
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So git over it peephole!
(resumes trying to fit in with the Bwhastinaws – er… Boston-ers)
I think it is reasonable to criticize the speech patterns of a public figure who no doubt has speech writers, coaches, and various other handlers who must be pointing out these errors to him.
If the man stuttered or had a lisp, that would not be an indication of his intelligence and/or care. But I’m not aware of any speech defect that causes this kind of phenomenon - maybe you can enlighten me, Izzy.
Zumba, if you don’t think idiots rise to positions of great power, I think you need some history education. I guess we should be grateful that he’s not insane (as far as we know).
Also, BTW, I’m no great fan of Gore, either, and I loathe Lieberman. But I’ll probably have to vote for Gore because he’s less likely to appoint right-wing Supreme Court Justices. Basically, I think anyone who wants to be President is most likely a conniving, lying opportunist, which makes voting in elections a challenge.
Well you should know, because you are clearly an idiot.
“Men who are idiots do not make it as far as he has”?!?!?!? What universe do you live in?
And it’s not an “odd pronunciation of a few words”: it’s more evidence that that man can’t effing read. He thinks there’s a B in the word because he’s never taken the time to actually read the word. He exists in a purely verbal world. For the same reason, he DOES INDEED say nucular.
If he knew what the fokking words looked like, he wouldn’t make such an utter jumping fool of himself every time he opens his stoopid mouth.
And anyone who continues to assert that Gore took credit for inventing the Internet, especially in light of the many threads on that subject in this forum, is just showing what an idiot they are. You are.
Sure. The words in question are not those that roll off the tongue easily. Many people who are not proficient in pronunciation tend to mangle such words in strange ways.
lissener,
Where is all this hostility coming from?
I evidently inhabit the same universe as Zumba The Cat because in mine, as in hers, “men who are idiots do not make it as far as he has”. I think you may have a very expansive definition of the word idiot, or else your own judgement is severely in question.
Al Gore did not take credit for inventing the internet in a scientific sense, but he was indeed attempting to imply that he had a larger role than he actually had. (Typical political jive. Far from unique to Gore, of course, but he does seem to have raised it to a new level).
I was not aware that in order to post to SDMB you had to have read and agreed with every prior thread or risked being attacked. I did not say that he took credit. I said that he said he took “initiative in creating the internet”. Which, I believe to be exactly what he said. Feel free to correct me and provide a site if I am wrong. I am sure that YOU have never been wrong about anything.
I don’t know what bug flew up your ass lissener but you seem awful hostile. I never called you any names and I don’t think that there is room for such behavior in a intelligent debate. If you would like to make this personal we can take it elsewhere.
You know, I’m not going to sit here and speculate about how stupid or smart GWB might be, or how much of a tendency he might have to mangle words, but if either of you two can sit there with a straight face and tell me you’ve never heard of dyslexia, I’ll have to wonder if you were raised by wolves. (FTR, dyslexia is defined medically as “A term used to describe a condition in which an individual with normal vision is unable to properly interpret written language. Dyslexia is more common in males and is often first recognised as a reading difficulty in the first grade. Individuals can see and recognise letters but are unable to spell and write words. They have no impairment of object or picture identification. Dyslexia is not related to intelligence and in fact several famous scholars were thought to be dyslexic (for example Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison). The exact cause of dyslexia is unknown.”)
Now, I don’t know if GWB does or doesn’t have dyslexia, but what if he does? It can be a lot more severe than just reading “bog” instead of “dog,” and similar transpositions and reversals. It can result in a lifelong impairment in reading, recognizing and pronouncing words, a situation I can only imagine would be exacerbated by being asked to speak in front of large audiences, often extemporaneously, and for publication.
Should the possibility of dyslexia disqualify someone from being President? Hardly, IMHO.
I grew up in Texas, in a couple of the major cetral cities, surrounded by fellow out of staters (San Antonio, military town, Austin, college town).
None-the-less, I still say “y’all” and “nucular” (you mean that is wrong?) even though I’ve lived up here in Yankee, er… Red Sox territory for 3 years I just can’t stop.
I know when I talk to people here they must think I’m a little touched in the head, but when I go back now to my folks who’ve bought a ranch in West Texas, I get the same funny looks unless I do my best drawl. Out there, only a four hour drive from where W. grew up, people really do talk like Texans.
I’ve got friends here who are from Germany, and they’ve been here three years and still sound stilted at best. At worst, they have developed Boston-German accents so I have a doubly hard time understanding them.
**Now, does anyone seriously think Bush would be catching hell if he talked like a New Yorker or Bostonian instead of a Texan?
If Kennedy’s accent was due to a learning disorder, I’m now living in a state full of “retahds.”**
Oh, please: sublimnblbnlbnlnblblbl is not a Texas accent–I was born and raised in Dallas. It’s apathy; he doesn’t even care enough to look at the damn word for a few seconds.