Succession on HBO

Just noticed that, for his underrated film Margaret (2011) (trailer here), Kenneth Lonergan cast no fewer than three actors now appearing in Succession: Kieran Culkin (Roman), J. Smith-Cameron (Gerri), and Jeannie Berlin (Cyd). In fact, Lonergan is married to Smith-Cameron.

I’m finally caught up on this season! I’ve been enjoying it. Having Logan die (mostly) offstage was a gutsy move, but I think it worked. The kids’ varied reactions to his death were nothing less than a master class in great acting.

The wake showed what the wake showed, but I do wish we’d had a funeral scene or even episode. They could have packed a lot into that.

On the corporate side, the sibs’ impulsive and erratic conduct, veering from being gung-ho and totally on-board for this deal or that, to deciding to secretly undermine it, to then openly opposing it, only proves the accuracy of their dad’s brutal, all-cards-on-the-table summation: “I love you, but you are not serious people.”

I hope we see the outcome of the presidential race before the show ends, with Dem candidate Jimenez decisively beating GOP/Neofascist candidate Mencken, and that that’s one more domino tumbling in the eventual downfall of the Roy empire.

LOL. Yeah, I think that’s my favorite scene of the season so far. A truly epic burn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8x7gYl4FO0

Anyone else remember David Rausche, the actor who plays Karl, in the lead role of the Eighties cop comedy Sledge Hammer? Quite a different role!

All good points. Logan’s will could totally change the landscape… or the show could just not address it at all.

That was a favorite of mine as a kid. “Trust me. I know what I’m doing!”

Ka-BLAM!

If she doesn’t own the apartment, she’s pulled a pretty neat scam by selling it to Connor for $63 million.

I saw an article suggesting that Connor overpaid; both based on the real-world value of that townhouse and on the fact that Marcia agreed so quickly to his offer.

Yeah, given the choice between the two of them, I’d take Marcia on my negotiating team over Connor any day. He’s a rube compared to her.

I’m 8 episodes into season 1 of Succession and I’m hooked—I think it’s a great show across the board.

It’s hard to feel empathy for a family of shallow, cut-throat billionaires who sell their souls for power, but Succession succeeds. It’s a reminder that great wealth doesn’t translate to happiness.

I’m especially drawn in by Nicholas Britell’s music score. Britell is a Julliard-trained composer with a heavy upbringing on piano, and it shows. His dark gravitas score has the feeling of Chopin’s nocturnes.

I think I saw the same article; it annoyed me. There’s no real world value of that townhouse because it doesn’t exist. It was filmed at a real location that is worth $X, but that doesn’t mean the in-universe townhouse is at the same address or has the same dimensions/amenities.

Welp, I think Tom and Shiv are officially done. :open_mouth:

One of the most brutal conversations on a show filled with them.

Tom telling Shiv she won’t be a good mother echoes what her own mother told her last season.

And she hasn’t told anyone she’s pregnant yet. When does that bombshell drop? (And whose child is it?)

Yeah, that balcony scene was scorching. “Clear the air” indeed. Yikes.

Roman trying to browbeat Connor into accepting a third-tier ambassadorship was painful, too (right down to him referring to Willa as Connor’s “wife” in scare quotes, to both their faces). It’d be sweet to see Connor now actually become the GOP spoiler in the election.

Glad to see Nate again - always kinda liked that guy. Hope to see him end up in the Jimenez White House.

Kendall’s sidewalk scene with his ex-wife was certainly cringeworthy. Like father, like son.

Matsson was his usual capricious, jerky, arrogant self at the party. I suspect his comms director is doing just what he wants her to do. The India secret seems too good to be true, from the Roys’ perspective.

Roman is clearly spiraling out. It wouldn’t surprise me if he killed himself, I also thought that Tom might jump off that balcony.

I thought exactly the same about Tom.

And how dumb do you have to be to lay off dozens, maybe a hundred, of your TV network’s staff the day before freakin’ Election Day?

There is no way that the fight with Ebba and her dropping the India bomb wasn’t completely staged. Mattson is preparing to fuck those guys.

Prior to the blow up, Tom and Shiv were banging again. Isn’t she far enough along to have a baby bump?

I’m getting the feeling Kendall will take over the company or fail spectacularly - he’s the only one actually trying. I don’t see Shiv or Roman with an angle anymore - Roman never tried/failed; Shiv is still too passive/non-committal. It seemed like this episode made this much clearer - it’s Kendall or bust.

It’ll be fun to watch as Kendall has been trying to do this since the start of the series; and where the others all end up.

Late Edit: But I think it’s plausible Tom (and Greg) end up on Team Kendall and do just fine. Tom could be like Kendall’s “Frank”. Loyal right-hand man.

The Connor thing: I don’t see how a third-party candidate dropping out less than 12 hours before polls open across the country could affect the election at all. With early voting so common-place nowadays, his dropping out would mean absolutely nothing for either Jiminez or the Nazi. It’s not like his name’s coming off the ballot, and anyone willing to vote for a third party candidate who’s polling at less than 10% won’t be swayed from doing so just because he says he’s “dropped out.” Hell, I’d wager most people wanting to vote for Connor wouldn’t even hear he dropped out until after the election’s over.

This seemed like a silly plotline to me.

I agree unless he made a statement that he wanted his people to vote for Mencken.

Eh, I don’t think it’s impossible, if one assumes the election will come down to a few thousand votes in one or two battleground states, as seems to be the case lately. And it doesn’t have to be certain that it would make a difference, just plausible enough for a desperate candidate to grasp it as a straw.