August 8, 2003, 11:15pm
Through a site which name I prefer not to mention, I came in contact with a young man via e-mail. I don’t know him very well, but I think he sees me as a last resort. He’s planning on commiting suicide this evening. He has a valid enough reason, imho, but I can’t just let a person die. He doesn’t live in the Netherlands, so I can’t give him the helpline telephone numbers
I don’t care how valid his reason
appears, it still ain’t as valid as being able to wake up in the morning. Perhaps this is a point you could try to emphasize.
How well do you know this person?
Perhaps you could call a help line and pose this question to them?
August 8, 2003, 11:28pm
Calling a help line might be a good idea, if for no other reason than to get some help for yourself in dealing with this.
You obviously have an e-mail relationship with the young man, but do you ever instant message him, or talk on the phone?
August 8, 2003, 11:30pm
Worldeater Not at all well. We just exchanged a few e-mails. Are there any help lines in the USA? [where I presume he’s coming from]
Ofcourse I tried talking it out of him, but again, In this society he would be spit out if people found out his reasons. I’m sorry I can’t be more specific, but he told me in confidence.
btw: The helplines here are closed. [fine help line, indeed. ]
If I were in your shoes I would call a suicide help line
immediately and ask them what the hell you should do, if you should do anything, best way to proceed, etc.
Any other advice would be talking out of my ass, which I refuse to do if this situation is as serious as you claim.
Any idea of a city or state? Name? Anything to go on?
If anything, you could get him to call
It’s toll free.
Then call the local authorities.
Are you sure you aren’t getting your chain yanked?
Problem is, Zette, 1-800 numbers can’t be called from all countries in the world. I know I’ve had trouble reaching such lines in the past.
August 8, 2003, 11:34pm
Fionn No messenger and no phone. Magickly Delicious Thank you, that’s what I need.
Thank you all. I’ll keep you posted. I have to get back to him.
Thank you so much.
August 8, 2003, 11:37pm
No city or state. No real name.
I don’t know if I’m being yanked. I don’t think so. Thanks Coldfire, checking now.
Well better to believe he’s telling the truth and to be wrong, then the other way around.
August 8, 2003, 11:51pm
I was thinking what
World Eater said.
I’m sorry you’re going through this,
gum. Handling my first suicidal caller on a youth hotline freaked me out, even though I’d been trained to handle them.
Can an IP address from the e-mail be traced to *
gum’s contact? I know I’m coming into the thread 12 hours after the fact, and hopefully, it has already had a good resolution.
August 9, 2003, 11:53am
World Eater, I understand your skepticism and I hope that you are right – that he is not really suicidal at all. But all threats of suicide should be taken seriously.
Gum, I wish you luck in finding help and answers.
August 9, 2003, 11:59am
Check the IP address in the header of the email/s. I don’t know what mail client you’re using, but “view all headers” will usually allow you to see it. This can also be done through the “options” of most online mail services.
http://www.samspade.org will allow you to find out at least what ISP he’s using - scroll down to “IP Whois” and paste it there. You could then contact the ISP, or pass the relevant information to the local police.