this is a lie and I can prove it. Well, that’s too harsh. But I can certainly fit my fist into my mouth. Shitting you not, I did this a lot in high school at parties- somebody had to do some plate-spinning music (“Yah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah, yah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah…”).
So at least I could kill myself that way.
If not, I certainly could pull a little bit of my intestines out at a time through the heinie, and then either stomp on 'em for a bit or swallow them.
Peace: I love your new signature, but do you mind correcting it so that there are not so many line breaks so that it will fit on 2 lines instead of two? Just being my usual anal retentive self, that’s all.
Jb, either your are pulling my leg, or your have a dysmorphic fist, or disjointed jaws, or… my imagination can run more, but I said “normal peron”. Because, altough an old person in theory could pull out a cariotic loose tooth and had a bleeding disorder, he would not technically be “normal”. Pain will stop anyone, not “most” people. So, if this thread is not a “Do-it yourself” manual, I’d vote for doing a half-turn in the air, landing on the neck and injuring it. Provided that you are total failure in life (the reason to kill yourself in the first place), you won’t kill yourself, just get paralyzed. In a few days, without (medical) attention, you’ll die. Paded room should not be a condition. We agreed on “bare hands”. Presumably, there are windows in a padded rooms. The easiest way is to break a window and cut a major artery with the glass. But this would be cheating/instrumentation.
I was thinking of the punji spike method myself that ** peepthis ** mentioned.
Why doesn’t this count - i think it to be one of the best methods mentioned here since it doesn’t take that much pain to start and doesn’t require you to be physicaly able to continue.
Basically it is using your own germs that are normally contained in your intestines to infect your entire body. It was used in vietnam against us. The enemy would get wood or metal spikes and place them where they expected us to walk. the spikes were ‘dipped’ in feces. when a soldger got stuck w/ it he would normally get a life threatining infection and die.
peace, the not-eating, not-drinking thing would definitely do it, and I doubt it would take all that long. The thumbrule I’ve heard (somewhat questionable in authority - from Asimov, but in a prelude to one of his fictional anthologies) is 5 minutes without air, 5 days without water, or 5 weeks without food.
And as far as examples among “normal” people - well, first you have to define normality, not a topic for this forum. But, I have a distinct (yet fuzzy) recollection of some Irish prisoner going on a hunger strike as a political statement (?), back in the late 70’s/early 80’s. I was very young then, but I recall seeing news footage of something like day 55. He looked about as much like a skeleton as you can and still be alive. I’m guessing he was at least drinking, but the process would be a lot quicker if you didn’t.
BGH,
You are more or less correct about time periods. So, let’s say that I chose the middle road (on my way to torturuos death): I do not drink. I have to build a one-way lock first: once I lock myself in, I cant escape. I still can drink my own urine (yekh), but eventually, I’ll probably die.
Do you remember, what happened to this Irishman? Was he force-fed? Or photographed and allowed to die? I question his real intentions, because he did not want to die, otherwise, he would’ve stopped drinking. In which case there would not be day #55.
I think I’ll have to ask for a cite on that one. I find it extremely difficult to believe it’s impossible–doesn’t quite have the same certitude as “the Earth is round.” I’m not about to personally prove you wrong (though I did cause myself a tremendous amount of pain through fingernails when younger, but…).
And I’d think scratching and poking around the rectum with a long fingernail could well do the trick.
nope, I don’t have a dysmorphic jaw. Otherwise normal hands and a normal mouth, but I can certainly get my fist in my mouth with little trouble.
couldn’t you lay in a funny position and make your arm go to sleep, then stay on it for a while? even if you went to sleep, the tingly feeling is strong enough to wake you up and remind you to squonsh your arm again. After a few days, gangrene!!!
I’ve got to believe that it is possible physically to bite deeply into your own flesh. Do the words coyote ugly mean anything to you? Just start gnawing…
I expect the person mentioned here is, or rather was Bobby Sands, who died on day 66 (having completed 65 days) of his hunger strike on 5th May 1981. Others also died, but his name was perhaps the most widely recognised, perhaps because he was elected to Parliament in April 1981.
I guess we won’t be getting a cite on the impossibility of creating a deep wound with your teeth. Without evidence, it seems to be as questionable as, I don’t know, the pressure required to rupture a testicle. I’m a little surprised at the arrogance of peace. It’s almost as though, oh, he was born with this knowledge or something.
Dehydration can kill even faster than that, depending on the person and the situation.
I’ll spare you the full details of my medical history, but when I was 18 I became extremely sick. One of the lowest points of my long illness was a two day period when I couldn’t keep anything down. Everytime I ate or drank anything I had horrible abdominal pains and threw it all up again within about 15 minutes. I became so dehydrated that I came close to death and almost certainly would have died had I not been rushed to the emergency room.
I had been sick for some time prior to this, I don’t know how long a healthy person could hold out. However, I have heard of cases of otherwise healthy people collapsing and sometimes dying of dehydration after having a busy day in which they skipped meals and drank nothing but soda or coffee.
I know johnson already got this but i want a stab at it too.
It is not impossible to cause more than a surface scratch with your teeth. Im pretty sure i could bite through a vein in my arm, given enough incentive- say getting impaled on a blunt stake ass first (vlad the impaler?) style or chewing through my arm i’d choose the later. Its not easy and i dont say this lightly, but if samurai could manage to slice their stomach three times commiting seppuku and contempate their entrails as they bled to death im pretty sure it is possible to bite through a vein. You wouldnt exactly be in a normal frame of mind if the best option for you to take is to kill yourself, so i dont think the pain would stop you.
It would probably be less painful than dehydration. And less painful than self immolation,
And feces to a wound has GOT to be more harmful than a freakin boil. The english arrows in ancient times were more deadly than the french because the english used to stick them in the ground where as the french used quivers. The french who got hit by englich arrows were far less likely to recover. Shit has got to be worse in the bloodstrem than earthy germs. If not you could leave it to fester for a couple of days. Also- padded cells do not have windows. Were you serious about that?