I was just watching Thor and obviously he makes present day humans look weak by comparison. How would he or other super heroes & villains match up against the Enterprise? Perhaps, at some point, shield technology advances past the power of the hammer? Maybe he beats Enterprise A but can’t beat Enterprise E? Where would Enterprise go on the super hero pecking order?
I’m pretty sure there’s been some superhero - Star Trek crossover books, maybe comics too. I’m certain there’s been an X-Men - Star Trek crossover; the X-Men have crossedover with just about everything.
Don’t worry. Batman will always be prepared.
One thing for sure: if Thor or a Thor-like being shows up in Star Trek, Worf is going to eat a whole lot of walls.
There have been two. The first one, I am sure, written simply to have the scene where someone asks for Doctor McCoy, and both Beast and Bones answer.
And, the Enterprise would be small potatoes compared to the top tier superheroes and villains.
Even ignoring cosmic level beings, who would probably have more fun messing with Q than the Enterprise, any given Green Lantern Corps member would outgun and outfly a Trek ship with little effort. Same for Sinestro Corps, Red Lantern Corps, Indigo Tribe, and Larfleez…Blue Lanterns and Star Sapphires would outfly them, but not be great in combat. Kryptonians are inconsistent in power, but a single Kryptonian or Daxamite would be easily the match of a Galaxy Class ship in combat, so long as they weren’t in the presence of a red sun - travel is a different question, however…it’s…difficult to guess their top speed, but they probably can’t match warp. (However, they could likely survive in a ship’s warp bubble and following along in their wake.)
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It’s obviously going to be situation dependent, but the transporters would be a potent offensive weapon against any super hero that’s not actually moving too fast for them to focus on. Most can be handled by teleporting them into space or the heart of a sun. Superman could be handled by teleporting him into the holodeck set to a red sun simulation filled with velociraptors.
Hmmm, I seem to recall Enterprise managing to defeat Apollo.
The real question is how they’d all stack up against a Star Destroyer!
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There was. It was worth it just to see Dr. Leonard McCoy meet Dr. Hank McCoy.
Oh, and to see Jim Kirk try to hit on Jean Grey.
That specific issue, X-Men and TOS Trek, was fantastic. “He… punched my ship?” The followup comic and book, not so good.
(One good right hook from Gladiator (Superman proxy character) shook the ship like a Photon Torpedo hit, by the way.)
The Enterprise routinely gets taken over or otherwise compromised by non-powered individuals of various species. Considering that many superheroes and villains have equivalent-level tech (power rings, shields, teleporters, telepaths, space ships, etc, hell, Brainiac is EqLevTech) I don’t see what advantage the Enterprise has. I mean, I can see them mopping up Batman and Spiderman, but Professor X? Phoenix? Magneto? Superman (tcha, like a holographic Red Sun is going to have an effect)? Green Lantern? Not a chance.
Wait, I thought Kirk survived?
As for the transporters, nobody in the Federation ever seems to have caught on to the fact that they’re incredibly powerful weapons. Why should they figure it out now?
I refuse to make the Batman joke.
Assuming both sides are ignorant of the other at the beginning of the battle, any pre-Crisis Kryptonian or Daxamite owns any version of the Enterprise if the latter is determined. In fact, the only way the Enterprises survive is if they’re fighting Superman, Supergirl, or Mon-El, and that’s because those three are not going to be inclined to use lethal forc But all three of those went against FTL warships on multiple occasions and came out the victor–and that was generally against aliens who knew their weaknesses. (Not that Mon actually had any.) Likewise the Silver Surfer is only going to lose if he lets himself.
Thor would do badly if he were in space. If the Enterprise made the huge mistake of beaming him aboard though…ends badly for them.
Hal Jordan, John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, or Guy Gardner could probably defeat the Enterprise. Alan Scott definitely could.
The X-Men, without their cosmic members (who tend to be unreliable) haven’t a prayer against the Enterprise in space, but it’d never come to such a battle; they’re just not set up for it. But against Federation ground troops? The X-Men would have to be hugely outnumbered to lose – at least a hundred to one. Likewise the FF or the Avengers.
Comic books operate on an entirely different level of fantasy than Star Trek. Based upon the kind of threats they routinely have dealt with in the past – including large alien spacecraft armadas, living planets, space deities, destroyers of worlds, etc. – any major superhero team like the Avengers or the Fantastic Four will certainly beat any version of the Enterprise in a fight in space. Ditto for a solo hero if it were someone like Thor, Silver Surfer or Quasar. It’d be more of a stretch, but heroes like Iron Man or the Invisible Woman could probably do it on their own without their teams – running out of oxygen would be their main worries. Mister Fantastic would take a shuttlecraft, a calculator and a whiffle bat and find a way to convert them into some technological marvel that would shut the Enterprise’s power down cold. Heck, even someone like the friendly neighborhood Spiderman, assuming he were inside the ship already, could likely eventually find a way to disable it and evade or incapacitate the entire crew if he had good enough reason to do so.
One of my favorite lines from a comic book came from a Fantastic Four - they had the kid who had been imprinted with Dr. Doom’s mind in a holding cell, and Johnny says of him “He could probably make a time machine with a radio and a bottle of aspirin.” Reed replies (absently) “Hm? No, he could only make a bomb with those, and not a very big one unless he had a whole lot of aspirin.”
Why Alan Scott and not the rest?
Because Federation starships are not made of wood.
I also liked a bit in Ultimate Fantastic Four, where they have an evil zombie version of the Fantastic Four from an alternate dimension, locked up in a cell. Zombie Reed convinces one of the guards that he’s built a teleporter out of a ball point pen. He clicks the pen, and the zombie FF vanish. The guard opens the door to the cell - and is promptly eaten by the zombies, who were hidden by Sue’s invisibility power, while Reed laughs at the guard for believing such a stupid trick.