Yes, if you ask the average Obama supporter what he would do differently than Clinton (as president), they usually can’t tell you anything.
That said, maybe Obama would have a better chance against McCain simply because of the rabid anti-Clinton sentiment.
For one Clinton’s health care proposal is vastly more expensive and she is pro war. With Obama we know his spouse will not be running the country.
Actually, I voted for Obama because I think women should stay in the kitchen. :rolleyes:
Or maybe he’s just a politician who is manipulating people into buying into some sort of false hope of massive change in order to get elected, like so many other politicians before him. Yeah, I’m gonna go with that one. I’m not saying he would be awful or anything, but I seriously doubt he’ll be ushering in any political revolution.
It would be enough if he can run an administration with integrity and transparency (which he seems to be trying to do). He could do absolutely nothing policy-wise save for managing to restore a level of trust in the government by the American people and I would consider him an outstanding, historic success.
Actually I think it is just the normal kind of racism. People love to bring up the southern redneck racist, but in my personal experience they have nothing on the Boston-working-man-Democrat racists, in either percentage of population, of degree of hatred.
So, he could ruin foreign policy, drive the economy even lower and appoint inept Supreme Court judges, but you wouldn’t care so long as he did so openly and honestly? Personally, I don’t give a damn about a President’s integrity, so long as they run the country in a way that is prosperous and fruitful for its people.
Maybe you’ve slept through the past seven years?
CNN’s delegate count is currently showing Clinton about 20 ahead for the night, but not all the delegates have been allocated in a number of states - California in particular is still mostly outstanding. So it wouldn’t surprise me if the final tally had Clinton winning the Super Tuesday delegate count by 40-50 delegates.
This is all absolute nonsense. That you could say this and believe it means you simply aren’t paying attention. Either that, or you’ve drunk the kool-aid the Clinton camp is pouring, because he is running on the issues.
Health care
The Environment
Tax cuts
Ousting the Lobbyists
Transparency in our government
Iraq
Immigration
He talks about how he’ll tackle these issues in his speeches and he’s been questioned about them in every single debate.
Again, not true. That you believe this tells me you haven’t read his Blueprint for Change, which is filled with how he does, indeed, intend to fundamentally change how our government operates. For example, right off the bat we have this:
If that’s not fundamentally different than the secrecy, subterfuge and outside interest influence we’re currently operating under, then I don’t know how else you’d define it.
Sexism/racism: one or the other is good enough for most registered democrats. I ran across a poll yesterday, now lost in the blizzard of super tuesday coverage, which indicated that 72% of democratic Obama supporters would happily vote for Hillary in november, while 71% of democratic Hillary supporters would happily vote for Obama.
No matter how you look at the data, it proves that the majority of democrats are horrible people. 
He will be challenged. A lot depends on how he (or his handlers and advocates) respond.
If he actually talks policy, well and good. He probably shouldn’t - he’s gotten this far without it. But if he does, and it doesn’t go as well as relying on charisma, and his supporters and handlers start saying, “what’s the matter - you don’t like black people?” then that is a bad sign.
Like I say, he has not done so to date, and this against someone who is likely a nastier campaigner than McCain (or whoever will be the GOP candidate). So maybe he will continue to stay on “message” after he gets the nomination.
Regards,
Shodan
That’s possible, but it also might be because Tom Merino, the mayor of Boston, is a Hillary supporter, and he has a pretty effective organization. Not every vote against Obama is because of racism, you know.
It would surprise everyone. All sides have it within 10 either way.
Why am I finding myself moved to enthusiasm by measures that I know are merely token gestures?
-FrL-
Well I did my part. Voted early for Obama and did Obama voter support work at two precincts.
Random notes:
Obama won all age groups in Georgia, but overwhelmingly won the youth vote (with something like 75% of voters 35 and under).
Obama won among white males.
Basically, the only demographic that belonged to Hillary here was white women over 50.
Polls were crowded, and there were a lot of people coming out who had never voted, or who hadn’t voted in years. I had to field a lot of questions from voters on the “inactive voter” list (voters who hadn’t cast a ballot in any recent elections). (They were entitled to vote, and did. For Obama.)
It would be a huge mistake for the Democrats to nominate Hillary. She would never be able to generate this sort of enthusiasm or turnout in the fall. (Well, among Republicans maybe.)
It was great fun, while driving back and forth between precincts, listening to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity go into meltdown over the success of McCain. Hee hee. All day long they were urging Southern Democrats to abandon Huckabee and vote for Romney. To no effect, it seems. By the end of the day, Limbaugh/Hannity had become so shrill that only dogs could hear them.
I was a Reagan supporter and I am an Obama supporter and it is for the same reasons. This country is in a funk. In 1980 it was a confidence thing, Vietnam, Watergate, Iran, Afghanistan, the economy. Now it is more that we are embarrassed by our leadership and that is a reflection on ourselves. I put a lot of stock in a President who can lead not through his policies but through his vision, through the force of his personality, through his ability to get people to work for him and for the country, and what I percieve as a somebody who can really improve our relations with other countries.
I may be naive, I may be wrong, but that is how I feel. He may not get his agenda through, but I think he can uplift and make us proud again, and I know that sounds corny and contrived, but I truly believe it.
Obama won more states and (apparently) more delegates than Hillary last night. He also (it is projected) will have a slight lead in total pledged delegates, but the media is playing it like Hillary was a big winner. I also keep hearing commentators on CNN and Fox throwing out the same bogus claim that Massachusetts represents a “failure” for the Kennedys and Kerry because Obama didn’t win it. They never mention that Obama was never expected to win Mass even after the endorsements, that Hillary’s had a ginormous lead in that very pro-Clinton state for months and that Obama did well to close the gap there as much as he did. If anything, the Kennedy endorsement (Caroline’s at least) probbly won him a few more delegates in Mass as well as the rest of the country. It’s possible that the Kennedy blessing played into his ability to take the overall lead.
Anyway, Obama is now the marginal frontrunner in delegates and he has a money advantage in the remaining states as well as the ability to campaign more in those states and milk that charisma for all its worth.
There’s still a chance they could go to the convention with Obama leading in delegates only to have the supers hand the nomination over to Hillary. I hope that doesn’t happen. That would really piss off the base.
I heard some people saying that last night, but who’s still saying that in the light of day?
I think it’s to Obama’s advantage to continue to be seen as the underdog. It will motivate everyone in the upcoming primaries who support him to really pound the pavement to improve turnout even more. And the media narrative over the next couple weeks will be all about his momentum–him nickle & diming the delegate count higher and higher, him earning more $ than the Clintons by significant margins, and him continuing to pick off states, one by one.
That McCain had a bigger night helped to defuse any traction Hillary might’ve gotten by her victories yesterday. He’s the real story today, while Obama has steadily closed the gap and only seems positioned to gain more and more popularity as he focuses his attention on these future battlegrounds.
The longer a competitive campaign runs for the nomination, the more it is to his ultimate advantage. And as things becomes less and less rosy for his opponent, the more likely her/their true colors will resurface–which again, will only help Barack by comparison.