Superman (2025)

It just occurred to me that this movie puts paid to the problems raised in “Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex.” Jor-el and Lara seem to be sure that Kal breeding with Earth women would be matter-of-fact.

In any case, you can just get the woman of Kleenex to a red sun planet for recreational purposes (and may be for the duration of the pregnancy?)

I’m not always a fan of a villain’s origin being intertwined with the hero’s story but I really did like Braniac being tied to Krypton’s destruction. It turned him from a goofy robot with short pants and a shrinking ray to something more dangerous, a being who engineered the destruction of Superman’s homeworld.

I can’t help be reminded of that old Cartoon Network commercial…

Each Batman seems to get darker!

I mean that works for the Dark Knight but what about other DC superheroes who work AFTER the sun comes up in the morning?

It’s been a bit now and I have to say…I’ve seen Superman (2025) twice and don’t think much about it at all. In fact, of the James Gunn movies I’ve seen, I’d rank them like this:

  1. Guardians of the Galaxy
  2. Guardians of the Galaxy 3
  3. Super
  4. Suicide Squad
  5. Guardians of the Galaxy 2
  6. Superman
  7. Tromeo and Juliet ← co-directed, but written by
  8. Slither <–this one was a dud

Turns out I’ve seen all his features he directed. Huh.

Holy crap, I had no idea that was James Gunn.

Yes, he has really leaned into the superhero genre as a writer. Only Slither and Tromeo are outside that genre.

I dont buy it. Totally out of character and canon.

Yeah, I hate it. I kept expecting Mr Terrific to figure it out.

Which was a major plot point, bringing down Luthor-corp.

I also finally saw it, and loved it. Guy Gardner is perfect, and nice to see Metamorpho again.

And hardly overrun by superheroes- - I count six.

I liked Krypto but not the cartoon.

Interesting film, but many other pets were canon before that- A Horse, Streaky the cat, et

Yep, Supes can live in space, underwater, etc.

How? No one else on earth speaks Krytonian.

In the origin chapters at the start of the Byrne Man of Steel continuity Lara is shocked that Kal is being sent to a world of crude savages. Jor-El points out that in this new world Kal will be a virtual god; she then asks/wonders if that means he will lead and elevate them in the Kryptonian ways — which to some of us sounds more as trying to comfort herself that he will not be degraded. So not an intention or “mission” that he shall conquer or rule but recognition that he could, setting up the Byrne origin-arc to end on the “Krypton makes him the Super but his Earth upbringing makes him the Man” note.

There was an entire storyline a few years back where Jor-El showed up and was basically a dick and treated Jon (Kal and Lois’ son) like shit and steals him away to “toughen him up” (I might be misremembering the details but Jor-El was not a good guy). So there is some precedent for that.

Six who play a major role in this particular story, maybe. But it’s definitely a world that takes the existence of superheroes for granted. One presumes that there were others off doing their own thing.

Well, there’s Peacemaker, but is he really a super hero? Sure others will show up, but in a world of 8 Billion, even a dozen or more is hardly overrun.

Sure, but as you mentioned, hardly conquering the world with a harem, etc. I mean, I buy Jor-El being a bit of a jerk, but not like that,

In the Peacemaker series, someone mentions that Peacemaker (Chris Smith) isn’t a meta-human. So perhaps not technically a superhero?

It’s not “a dozen or more” (well, technically, it is, but…). We see four superheroes just based in Metropolis. Even if that’s a fairly big city, there are lots of big cities in the world. And there might even still be more just in that city.

Let’s say that Metropolis has a population of about ten million. That’d mean thousands of superheroes in the world as a whole, if the ratio holds.

He is also sometimes an anti-hero, but he does have some advanced tech gadgets, his helmets.

Questionable, certainly.

Sure, but those 4 have to handle stuff world wide and even in space in the case of Green Lantern.

No doubt there are more, but not millions. or even thousands.

There are two flavors of super hero in DC: Metahumans who have actual powers and costumed vigilantes who have no innate powers (but may have gadgets or tech). Peacemaker is the latter.

Aren’t both Mr Terrific and Green Lantern also just tech-powered heroes, in that dichotomy?

Something I saw online today: The character Fleury from Peacemaker who has something called Bird Blindness (which is just what it sounds like) is going to be in Man of Tomorrow. He is probably going to be the one that say the line, “It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s Superman”.