Shouldn’t they be happy? All they do is rail against the government for curbing personal freedoms, and here we have one of the greatest victories in our nation’s history for such freedoms.
There are literally hundreds of laws that treat married people differently, from birth through death (and beyond, in probate). Many can be contracted around at great expense. Some cannot.
If you want sanity and consistency from US conservatives, you’re gonna need a time machine.
Not this time; this was well written indeed…
[QUOTE=Justice Anthony Kennedy]
No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice, and family. In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than once they were. As some of the petitioners in these cases demonstrate, marriage embodies a love that may endure even past death. It would misunderstand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage. Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization’s oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right.
- *It is so ordered.
[/QUOTE]
Well, let’s see, I am a registered Republican, but I skew liberal on social issues.
I’m in favor of gun rights, I don’t have a strong stance on abortion, I think gov’t is too big and our national security too lax.
That said, when I got the text that SCOTUS had made this ruling, I immediately trumpeted it joyfully on Facebook.
We DO exist, you know. Not all of us fear teh gay.
My apologies. I know most folks with a modicum of common sense support this decision, and I should not have lumped all Republicans into the same pot.
True. It’s just the primary voters that are mostly crazy.
Well, and the 30 or so percent who think that Obama is a Hitler clone.
I was hoping for someone a bit more…cut. But who knows what he hides under those robes?
Listen, in Mandatory Gaymerica, you take the gay marriage you’re given!
I highly recommend watching the movie Bridegroom. True story about Shane Bitney Crone and Tom Bridgroom, who were a gay couple in California when gay marriage was illegal. Tom died, and his family from Indiana swooped in and took him and all of his possessions back home, and refused to allow Shane to attend the funeral (threatening bodily harm to him if he showed up).
The original short form version of the film is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR9gyloyOjM
The AGs of Louisiana and Texas have both said gay marriage does not apply to their states. And the county clerk of Pike County, Alabama has shut down all marriage licensing.
It’s lovely prose. But it’s awful legal writing, and the opinion leaves the status of homosexuals very much in doubt for other purposes.
As this thread began with debating overtones, I am willing to let it sit in this forum as a place for those who choose to celebrate the decision to voice their happiness.
However, while a few snide remarks about the political or religious Right are to be expected, snide comments regarding other posters have no business in this thread.
Do not use this thread to snark on other posters.
Do not use this thread to make snide comments about the political or religious Right that amount to snarking on other posters.
Take such comments to a new thread in The BBQ Pit.
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I have no dog in this fight but there is nothing in those quoted statements that is snide or snarky.
Nor did I say they were. (Although your claim that the post by** running coach** was not snide is a bit odd.) I made no assertion that anyone had violated any rules or had even behaved badly.
However, those posts indicated a direction in which various comments might lead and I want everyone to keep further comments that would get venomous out of this thread.
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[QUOTE=Antonin Gregory Scalia]
“But what really astounds is the hubris reflected in today’s judicial Putsch.”
[/QUOTE]
Was this an opinion written by an associate justice of the U.S. Supreme court or a comment written by a semi-literate recreational-outrage addict under a Daily Mail story?
Why is putsch upper case? Because it would be in a Daily Mail comment written by a semi-literate.
If he is using it as a direct borrowing from the German, it would remain capitalized as a German noun. Do we know whether he italicized the word in the document he prepared?
It’s in Roman in this pdf:
www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf
In Texas, the counties issue marriage licenses. Apparently the state’s Atty General ordered them to wait for “instructions”–new forms, new software, etc. Many urban counties just proceeded to issue licenses (scratching out irrelevant words), have judges at the ready to dispense with the 72 hour waiting period & start the marrying. By “urban” I include heretofore unsuspected sin cities like Amarillo, Waco & Midland. Updates at the Texas Observer.
*One problem area: *
The couple could have married elsewhere but they can afford “a team of attorneys”–which will help the less affluent gays of Tyler. The Republican County Clerk here in Harris County dragged her feet but she was confronted by a lawyer & relented.
The article also tells of plans to avoid the ruling by folks like our truly horrid Lite Gov, Dan Patrick. They will try to cause trouble but it’s really a bit late to lock the stable door…
Yeah, as much as Kennedy (fortunately) tends to fall on our side of the fence in these cases, he’s also infamously reluctant to actually create precedent that sexual orientation falls under any specific level of scrutiny. It’s approaching self-parody.
One of my bookmarked websites (dedicated to health and fitness) posted a lovely picture of a rainbow and “Love Wins.” The comments were either thrilled or horrified. But what got me was the viciousness the posters (who are presumably also members of the website) directed toward each other. Some people said they would quit the site because they considered it political and not appropriate. Others were leaving because the site had shown its “true colors.” But others were telling them stuff like, “Good riddance” and “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”
When did we become a society that screams at each other and not one that talks things out? It seems like someone has an opinion and someone else makes a snap judgement and that’s the end of it. No discussion, no interest in trying to understand.