Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party

What passes for self-described “conservative” these days believes that there is an order to the universe where some are the deserving and some are the undeserving and that helping those in need is still conditional on that. So the deserving vulnerable should be “helped” with incentives to the family caregivers, the undeserving vulnerable who may require direct care from public services, must not.

And what’s hitting them is that faced with funding cuts, states are trying to protect the core program to give basic health care to the poor, and backing down on high-dollar-low-numbers programs such as hers.

That’s certainly the cartoon version.

But what do these “conservatives” believe ought to happen to vulnerable people who do not have someone else to provide / care for them or when the most provision they can muster is simply inadequate?

What is the “conservative” answer to that problem? Is it “Sucks to be you, go starve or die under a bridge.”?

The modern conservative is a cartoon version of what they used to be.

I think it’s '“their church will help them, which is why it’s important not to tax churches”.

That, and more broadly, “that’s what charities are for.”

“This is why you need to go to a church so your church community can help you out like good Christians”

No joke, that’s the answer got when I asked one of them that question.

To clarify, the historical Conservative view was to give everyone the same opportunities like the best K-12 education in the world, affordable college, a job where raises and promotions are based on a meritocracy, &c. If you choose not to take advantage then that’s on you. Agree or disagree with that philosophy all you want and consider the historical context of the time, but current conservatism is
Opportunities for those that agree with my political/religious/social views are acceptable.
I gots mine so everyone else can fuck off.

Yes; their solution is death. The poor and sick should just die and not be a “drain on society”.

So us atheists without families are supposed to go die in a corner somewhere?

Yeah, until you start pledging your allegiance to a liege lord. (Or, you know, some kinda neofeudal corporation…)

As God intended.

Get a job. Duh! And if you do have a job and it is not enough, obviously you need to work harder.

Or to borrow from Charles Dickens, “If they would rather die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

Press on.

Either that, or you need Jeebus in your life.

Or -

Or ideally in their view, we’d be tortured to death on national television.

Reminder that I thoughtfully created a Leopard hijack thread. The rants here are topical there.

There’s also a thread for substantive discussion in GD, should your rant be sufficiently adaptable:

More Leopard news from a couple of weeks ago in the Economist. Background: Alligator Alcatraz is an immigration detention facility paid for by the state of Florida to the tune of $245 million. It was constructed by a firm with no experience in building such facilities and could very well become a death trap during hurricane season, depending in part on whether FL has made sufficient evacuation plans. A few Trump supporters are not happy. Emphasis added:

In Miami, where 70% of people are Hispanic, the deportation theatre is not going over well. Many expected the Trump administration to pick up gang members, but not cleaning ladies and Uber drivers. “Arbitrary measures to hunt down people who are complying with their immigration hearings” is “not what we voted for”, the co-founder of Latinas for Trump wrote on X in June. Conditions at Alligator Alcatraz resemble prisons in places their grandparents escaped. “Pick them up, throw them out, but don’t mock them,” one veteran Republican says of criminal immigrants. Another party strategist who “loves everything else Trump is doing” wonders how a country known for taking in “the poor and huddled masses” can also be “dragging them out to be tortured in the Everglades”.

A majority of Americans agree. In recent polling 52% said the government is trying to deport more people than they expected; 57% opposed building new detention centres. Last month Mr Trump’s net approval rating on immigration flipped from positive to negative.

Sub req: Alligator Alcatraz: an exercise in performative cruelty | The Economist

Yes, yes it is.
Oh, you didn’t notice them telling you that that was exactly what you were voting for?

BTW, the ICE target you just put on your back goes well with your skin tone.

“Charismagnetism”?

Trump is one of the few Presidents doing exactly what he promised. Ignorance is no excuse.

In that article was this line:

She also noted that a plan to develop the site on which the jail was built into a massive tourist airport was rejected in the 1960s because of the harm it would have caused the the land and delicate ecosystem.

And that rang a bell for me. Turns out I’ve seen two youtube videos (Mentor Pilot and Half As Interesting) about it: