The Soviet Union had their own constitution which offered citizens great protections like due process and individual rights. Of course in practice the Soviet government wasn’t worried about little things like due process or freedom of speech. The MAGA side doesn’t really care about what the Constitution says even if they pay lip service to it. They’re not even looking for loopholes really, they’re just interpreting it the way they want no matter precedence or common sense. A lot of people find it odd we care so much about the US Constitution, but I think we’re approaching an era where that veneration will come to an end.
That case was decided 5-4 in 2020 when RGB was still in the bench, and if it came up before the court today there’s a good chance it would’ve flipped the other way.
I used to agree with all those arguing that T**** is too dumb to understand how tariffs work but then I realized that I was being too naive about how T**** works.
When T**** slaps a blanket tariff on, say, Canada, the adversely affected powerful Canadian and US corporations will immediately start lobbying His Griftiness with reasons why he should grant them dispensations from said tariff. And of course T**** will be happy to do so, for a quid pro quo. It’s “The Art of the Deal,” right? The result will be the double orgasm of having powerful companies reduced to begging him for favors, plus he will certainly find a way to gain financially from the deals. The result is a wealthier and more powerful POTUS and bigger monopolies for everyone else.
You clearly didn’t read my own cite.
I never said it did. Not only did you not read my cite, you apparently didn’t even read my post.
I was asked for JUST ONE EXAMPLE and I provided it. It’s too late to move the goalposts.
You are way overthinking it.
Development of Trump policy goes like this – someone mentions an idea. Trump throws it into one of his rambling rally speeches. The crowd cheers. It becomes policy.
There is no more thinking involved, whatever.
True. But that was the case for T1.0. T2.0 is now P2025 for all intents and purposes. Actually, it will likely be a combination of T1 and P2025. Way back in his first administration or during his campaign, Trump stated he had the authority to ban birthright citizenship via executive order. IIRC, there was at least one poster on this site who held to that idea basing it on the assertion that undocumented aliens are not subject to the jursidiction of the US. Yes, I know; but that’s the assertion, and it’s been made seriously by those who soon will have a chance to test it out (or it’s been listened to by those people).
If you look in my thread about the clusterfuck continuing, you’ll see a veritable line-up of face-eating leopards. And not a one of them, least of all Trump, gives any allegiance to the constitution.
Yeah, Trump and company have a consistent pattern of simply ignoring the law unless and until somebody outright stops them. And there’s fewer people willing and able to do so this time around.
I find this post very amusing.
I’m pretty sure if we dusted the goalposts for fingerprints, it wouldn’t be those of @Ann_Hedonia we would find on them.
Nailed it.
You could have quoted that the first time, since the vast majority of the article is talking about the 15th.
You implied it by including it in that response. At any rate, it’s highly unlikely the current Congress will pass another Amnesty Act for the 1/6 insurrectionists.
No, I meant, someone puts up a guardrail to save him from crashing and burning…Sometimes I’m too clever to be understood…
A lot of people can’t imagine an America in which, after you’re arrested, and while you’re being processed, while you’re distracted, someone steps up behind you and puts a bullet in your head.
I don’t think the US will get to that point, not really, maybe, but I can’t see what would stop it, either, if the people in charge decide to go that way.
Maybe, but the reality is the DOJ did not indict him on the federal charge which SCOTUS specifically pointed out.
Banning someone from office without a guilty verdict is a due process violation, not that many people cared about former Confederates’ rights just after the war. But today there is a law that applies
18 USC 2383
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
SCOTUS said that to enforce Amendment 14 Section 3, Trump needed to be convicted of this law. Blame Garland for not attempting to indict Trump on this law.
Sorry to interrupt the constitutional law discussion, but I’ve been noticing a certain pattern with certain supporters fo the LEFP voters at my place of work.
It goes like this:
- Exclaim/curse/sigh over price of purchase total
- Say something like “oh, boy, just your wait until Trump gets into office - he’ll fix these right away!”
- I say “you mean, if he puts all those tariffs in place?”
- They say something like “Yep. That’ll bring all these crazy prices right down!”
Boy, are they going to be surprised. Unfortunately, it won’t be just them paying more.
A lot of African-Americans can imagine that quite easily, except that it would happen instead of being arrested and processed.
In a discussion upthread, @Smapti quoted a Wiki-article about a law requiring prosecutors to get a writ of quo warranto to remove insurrectionists from government offices. Once Trump takes office, who’s going to be the first to try this out for him? Someone in Colorado? Or perhaps Washington state?
On the checks and balances thing, maybe we can find a middle ground?
Let’s say Trump tries to do 10 things that are not constitutional. A not unreasonable number given the number of things he’s promised to do that are not within the president’s executive powers, let alone the desire to terminate, well, the constitution.
Of course he will not get 10/10 of those through…I’m not sure anyone would argue that he could. (Although ask me again in a few years if more checks on power have been eroded)
But I also think it is highly unlikely that the answer will be 0/10, given that Republicans have the House, Senate, White House and Supreme Court, and they have spent the last few years helping Trump evade justice and using the powers of the House to attack Trump’s enemies while he wasn’t even in power.
So of course now with Trump in power many levers of government and the courts will be helping Trump pass whatever he wants. I doubt very much that “But the Constitution” is going to be sufficient in many cases (or even most cases IMO, but let’s agree that the answer is not likely to be zero cases).
Oh, sorry. As you figured, I was talking about guardrails for the country. I could give a flying fuck about what happens to Trump and, in fact, would derive a certain amount of schadenfreude if it happened without the rest of the country – or world – being dragged down with him. His proposed tariffs scare the hell out of me.
In addition to a Social Security card or a birth certificate issued by a state, county, or municipality?
I’m…confused by that also.
I did not know that those were a thing. Thank you for educating me.
Huh? If they’re not subject to the jurisdiction of the US, how can the US justify detaining them?