Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party

You’re a fucking liar. I have never accused you of editing posts. I don’t know what you think you’re achieving by butting into an ongoing discussion by claiming that people didn’t say what they said, then lying and backpedaling when I called you on it.

What you ARE doing is leaving out context. You snipped my quote to delete the part about “suspending” birth certificates to try and make it look like I was lying about what you said (which is at the very least a violation of the SPIRIT of board rules about quoting other posters), and just now you omitted the beginning of our conversation to make it look like I attacked you out of nowhere.

Here’s where you butted in to an existing discussion (all bolding mine);

To which I responded;

You then decided to double down;

To which I asked;

To which you tripled down;

At this point I reminded you that this wasn’t even something Republicans were talking about doing and was a pure hypothetical that people upthread invented.

To which you threw out a strawman;

And.I pointed out that this was a strawman;

Amd that’s where you decided to pretend that you didn’t say what you said, and that this was a conversation only between the two of us and not something you butted into without being asked and that I was making things up about you.

Either quit lying about a conversation anyone can read or fuck off.

I just want to say that I feel honored being lumped with Little_Nemo

Maybe the problem here is you don’t understand what the word editing means.

I agree on that. I would much rather be discussing the substance of the topic.

If you’re using “edit” to mean “to omit”, then by that definition you DID edit my post, because you left out the part of the sentence that showed you were lying when you claimed you didn’t say what you said.

Dig up, stupid.

So the part where you say you have never accused me of editing a post; is that still good?

I never accused you of changing the content of my posts, only of omitting part of what I said. If you’re claiming that that’s not what you meant when you said “editing”, then that’s just another backpedal on your part.

Okay, that one wasn’t even coherent.

Sounds like I’m not the one who has trouble understanding what words mean. Let’s adjourn this sidebar until you take some remedial reading comprehension classes.

(That means I’m done talking to you for now.)

Oh no. Was it something I said? Or was it something I didn’t say but that you thought I said?

Thank you both for taking a breather.

Someone on this board said his son is getting them. Do a search for “seminars”. I think someone else said in the same thread that he had gotten them when on active duty.

When I was in, back in '71-'75, it was covered near the end of basic training.

I was in the Air Force from 1976 to 1980, and may have been mentioned, but never explained at all.

That would be me. Incoming officers are being reminded about every couple of weeks about the difference between legal and illegal orders. I have no clue about enlisted, though.

Unfortunately over the Thanksgiving holidays I met some young officers (ages 25-30, one is a relative of mine) and based on their political conversations I have no doubt that they will conceive of every MAGA order as lawful.

And one of them is a JAG. Another is a cybersecurity specialist. :exploding_head:

‘Lawful’? I thought you said we must obey every ‘Awful’ order!”

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Anyone assuming that the US military will act as a check on Trump’s worst schemes is living in a dream world.

That does give me pause for thought, but you can’t deny that many (someone said 40%) of service members are brown and black, so they may find it abhorrent to turn on their own kind.

The armed services are essentially large logistics organizations with very sharp points. It would take only a few disgruntled members in key positions to severely impede operations.

But we’ve also see from the election that a lot of that community don’t see them as “their own kind”. They make distinctions between legal and illegal, and also recent vs. older immigrants.

And it won’t start with them shooting people. It will just be them providing “security” while civilian police round up some suspects. Once those people are on the busses, the military won’t have much more to do with them, or where they end up.

It’s only after they get used to stage one that they’ll be moved to stage two, three, or four, which get progressively worse.

Ehh. One of the things that I’ve heard about Marine boot camp is that the first thing they do to a recruit is psychologically break them down into a metaphorical lump of clay, then build them into a MARINE. I have not heard of the Army or Air Force doing this, and if the Navy tried it on me, it didn’t take (when I was named Company Honorman, I was asked to submit a short essay on what patriotism meant to me. My initial response was that it was famously the last refuge of scoundrels. I was not named Honorman for the entire boot camp that session). Anyway, I’d be careful about making assumptions regarding what servicemembers would consider “abhorrent.”