I don’t know if that’s better or worse than The Marching Morons.
I suggested that months ago, buy up Fox News, OAN, and the rest of the outlets then give them what they want. Trump made President for Life so there are no more elections, the Biden crime family lined up against a wall and shot, Mexicans of all nationalities trucked to the border then forced across with shock sticks.
If they step outside their bubbles and notice things aren’t quite how they look of the teevee, it’s crisis actors in the Deep State’s last chance grasping at straws.
This line just kills me
“I think he knows it’s the poor people that got him elected, so I think Trump is going to do more to help us.”
Why would he ? - he already got what he wanted and there’s really nothing more he can get from them. Maybe if he really thought he was running again in 2028 but I don’t think even he believes that.
I think he really does want to stay in power in 2028, but “the will of the voters” will have little to do with that. He’ll have to subvert a lot of rules to pull that off, and so knows it won’t involve any kind of normal electoral process. So long as enough of the deplorables with guns are on his side, he’ll figure he has a chance, and we’ve already seen how a lot of those types will ignore his failures.
“He is more attuned to the needs of everyone instead of just the rich,” she said. “I think he knows it’s the poor people that got him elected, so I think Trump is going to do more to help us.”
People who say things like this utterly confound me. Against all evidence to the contrary, they hold onto this fallacy. Willful ignorance is all it is.
Either that or it’s just something nicer to say to a reporter than what she’s really thinking: “I want him to deport all the non-whites as he’s promised to do”.
“…and that way when they’re gone there will be jobs and money and housing and health care to spare for Good Americans like me.”
When all of the low-wage workers are deported, then there will be jobs for everybody. But there won’t be any money, because the employers won’t want to pay what Real Americans™ are used to. (Also, the work is too hard for Real Americans™.)
“Farah Khan, a co-chair of the Abandon Harris campaign in Michigan, said she’s been a lifelong Democrat, but not anymore. She viewed voting against Harris as a moral issue as the war continues to unfold,” telling NBC, “Anybody with their right mind would not go back to the Democrats, because they have not shown any change, and they’re going to have to work really, really hard to win their votes back.”
Addressing how Trump appealed to the Muslim community, she stated, "He at least, at least came and spoke to the Muslims. He heard them and said, ‘Okay, I will finish. I will end the war in Middle East,’ even if he didn’t say, you know, a genocide, but he said he will bring peace. And that’s what the people wanted to hear, and that’s why he got the votes.”
You might say he’s promising a final solution.
The must utterly batshit line from Farah Khan:
…but we still have to wait and see how things pan out, because it’s too early to say anything about Trump…
How fucking stupid are you? Wait and see? Too early? We’re you in a fucking coma his first four years (or, he’ll, even first week) a President!?
I hope they all starve to death under a bridge.
I just want to say how annoyed I am right now with the autocorrect feature on my iPad.
Us too.
I hope Hitler doesn’t start a war
Gifted WAPO article, which is what the story was based on.
“After backing Trump, low-income voters hope he doesn’t slash their benefits:
Voters in the struggling Pennsylvania city of New Castle backed Trump hoping he’d curb inflation. But the incoming president will be under pressure to cut spending.”
The following is based on early exit polls: we need to wait for properly weighted data. It is nonetheless suggestive.
Fifty percent of voters from families with an income of less than $50,000 a year cast their ballots for Trump, according to the data, compared with 48 percent for Vice President Kamala Harris. Four years ago, President Joe Biden carried those voters by 11 percentage points; Hillary Clinton won them by 12 points in 2016 and former president Barack Obama by 22 points in 2012.
AFAICT, lower income voters were concerned about inflation, because they were hit harder by inflation. Wages and benefits adjust with inflation, but with a lag so lower income people tend to receive more punishment. This effect isn’t widely understood among the chattering classes, so Democratic politicians don’t talk a lot about it. The smart thing for Democratic politicians to do would be to be outraged about inflation and give off the vibe of fighting it without going so far as to do something fast and effective like jack up unemployment and spark a recession. As it is, inflation was down by Nov 4th, but apparently memories remained.
Also Trump promised he would bring back old grocery prices, something he backed away from this month.
But why would they talk about that when that isn’t what happened this time?
It feels like capitulating to the rhetoric, based on a pattern which didn’t apply this time.
Did trump promise that explicitly?
Mostly it was just cherrypicking something which has seen the most inflation, like eggs, exaggerating the price and contrasting with how much cheaper they were when he was president.
It was mostly left as an exercise for the listener (and fox news etc) to draw the inference.
Which is interesting. He has no problem lying of course but he may know this is a particularly hard one to gaslight. Like, of course from day 1 of trump’s presidency the right wing media will stop lying about the economy. But they can’t flip the talking point on inflation without prices genuinely coming down.
I should have said Social Security cost of living increases, rather than the more generic, “Benefits”. Also, wages have gone up higher than inflation (though not the minimum wage).
As for Trump’s promises, Huffpo recounts some of them:
“Prices will come down,” Trump said during a rally in August. “You just watch: They’ll come down, and they’ll come down fast, not only with insurance, with everything.”
“We will end inflation and make America affordable again, and we’re going to get the prices down, we have to get them down,” Trump said at a rally in September. “It’s too much. Groceries, cars, everything. We’re going to get the prices down.”
Kevin Drum provides a taste of reality: the Dems strengthen the safety net.
The delusion here is painful. It’s on Democrats that so many people have apparently given up on them, but I still wonder what they could have done. Joe Biden increased food stamp benefits permanently by nearly $200 after inflation. He cut the poverty rate from Trump’s first-term average of 11.1% to 10.1% in 2023. He made Obamacare cheaper for everyone. Even after the recent unwinding, he’s expanded the Medicaid rolls by 8.3 million. SSI benefits went up 22%—more than inflation. He wrote generous stimulus checks at the height of the pandemic against united Republican opposition.
This is the WashPost article, isn’t it? I’m guessing that just from the quote, having read it earlier today. Zero sympathy for those wilfully deluded fools.
ETA: Checked, and while it’s a link to Raw Story, it’s lifted from the very article I was assuming it to be.
“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of, and Trump has too much common sense, so I don’t think he is going to do anything to hurt us.”
Oh, so what you really want is something like socialism? Fucking idiots.
Most people DO want something like socialism. But they don’t understand what socialism actually is and just associate it with “bad”, “evil”, “anti-white” or “unchristian”.
So yes, fucking idiots.