Dan voted Elizabeth. Karishma voted Janet. Elizabeth voted Karishma. I don’t know if they showed it, but you can see it here: Survivor: Island of the Idols - Wikipedia
They did not show the first vote, but Wiki says Dan voted Elizabeth and Karishma voted Janet.
Mr Touchy-Feely needlessly reached over and tapped Karishma on the arm/shoulder early in the telecast when he congratulated her on her idol play from the previous night’s TC.
NM, double post
Good call.
Dean played his Fake Faux Legacy Advantage (LA), keeping the original Faux LA. Apparently the tribe consensus (before he played it) was the Faux LA was genuine.
In the past seasons (Millenials vs GenX and Game Changers), if the owner of the LA was voted out before it ‘expired’ the owner “willed” to another player. Jessica Lewis gave her LA to Ken and and Sierra Dawn Thomas gave hers to Sarah Lacina.
Dean’s faux LA allegedly expires at the TC of six player so if he gets voted out in either of the next two TC’s does he will it to another player?
Dean’s whole “Goat Army” rant was ironic. Isn’t he as big a goat as anybody? I mean, what’s he done, really? The guy’s getting on my nerves.
IMO, Missy and Elizabeth were two of the worst actors in the wake of the harassment incident, and I’m rather relieved they’re both out of the game. But Dan is still around, and has a real shot to win it all! That would be the worst outcome in the show’s history, if you ask me.
Karishma didn’t go home with an idol in her pocket; good for her, I guess. But she seems afraid to do anything else to help her game. She had a lot more power than she realized at that vote, and did nothing with it. I’ve given up rooting for her as an underdog. She’ll either be gone soon or get dragged to the end and get no votes. She hasn’t earned more than that.
I suppose I won’t be terribly mad if Tommy, Janet, or Elaine wins the million. But I’m all in for Lauren right now. I’d been on the fence about her, but she’s smart, savvy, and becoming more likable by the week.
Agreed about Lauren, except that she was complicit* in that whole sordid business getting Janet to vote for Dan, so for me she’s tainted. I don’t dislike Elaine, but currently I’m leaning toward rooting for Tommy. It’s hard to root for anyone this season, though. Maybe what I’m really rooting for is to go with double episodes the rest of the way just to end it as quickly as possible.
*When it was time to vote Janet turned to her and asked if they were really doing this. Lauren nodded and the die was cast.
Not to mention setting the Me Too! Movement back a year or more. :(:mad:
Eh, I don’t think he’s a ‘goat’ as the term seems to traditionally been used, which is a player you purposely bring to the end because no one would vote for them to win. He’s had a tough game (on the loser tribe both times; both of his main allies have been voted out) but he’s managed to survive and advance (even if one vote he survived only through Kellee’s graces). He’s also not that good at the individual challenges (since they tend to all be endurance/balanced themed) but he was useful earlier on. If the season ended tomorrow and the final 3 was Dean/Noura/Karishma I think he’d win fairly easily. He’d certainly be one of the weakest winners in history, but I think that’s true of pretty much anyone left at this point unless something crazy happens.
I agree with your rooting interest though, Lauren’s my favorite of who’s left, and Tommy, Elaine or Janet wouldn’t be disappointing (nor exciting). Karishma, there’s the possibility she somehow completely turns her game around at the end for a crazy finish, but I also think it’s entirely likely she just gets finally voted out next episode. Dan winning would be a sign they should end the show after Season 40.
So, tonight is my least favorite episode of each Survivor season: family visits. They seem endless to me, Jeff calling the visitors in one-by-one, demanding their player ‘get some love’, trying to get the players to express why/how they love this person… And then sending all but one of them, plus usually one or two extras, away in just a few minutes.
It seem endless and glurgy to me.
Why can’t they make it fit better with Survivor?
Like add some game play, force the players to make decisions.
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Combine the loved ones visit with a food offering. Over there, out of sight, is your wife/mother/first cousin/whatever. Over to this side is a table set with a complete feast, like a steak/baked potato/drinks/chocolate cake meal. You can have one or the other – just how much do you want to talk to the loved one for a few minutes vs. refueling to maybe help survive to the end?
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Or, instead of the food available to any and all, there’s a bowl with, say, five little bundles. Instead of automatically seeing your loved one, you can choose a bundle from the bowl. One bundle will give you an extra vote at the next or the following Tribal Council. One bundle will give you an advantage at the next Immunity Challenge. One bundle contains an Immunity Idol. One bundle requires you to pick some other player to lose any chance of seeing their loved one. In all these cases, you won’t see your Love One at all.
The final bundle guarantees that your loved one will be able to visit at the camp for the entire day. (Or whatever reward the winner of the usual competition gets for that, but without the seemingly automatic ‘pick two more’ to win.)
Up to five can choose to gamble on a blind pick, picking in the order they volunteer. Whether/when they reveal what they drew is up to the player. The remaining players do the usual type competition to win the longer visit from your loved one.
Wouldn’t something like that be a lot more interesting to watch?
I don’t like the Loved One visit either. Remember a few years ago when they chose black and white rocks as the challenge. If you and your loved one chose the same rock, you advanced to the next round.
IIRC, Some of the players have been “throwing” the Loved One Challenge as a game play move. Players don’t want to have to pick the others because of the possibility of “bad blood”.
That seems a bit complicated. Here’s a simple version: Everyone plays the same challenge, but split into two groups. One group plays for immunity, one group plays for the family reward. You choose which you want to play for. And if you choose to play for immunity, you can’t be chosen to go on the loved one reward.
There was speculation here (or maybe it was actually confirmed somewhere?) that there was a challenge planned, and for some reason they were not able to go through with it, and the rock draw was a weak Plan B.
But to your second point, if players actually don’t want to win the loved ones challenge, that’s a good argument for doing away with it altogether. I agree that it’s become an eye-rolling waste of time.
Eh, I think that’s why they should keep it. It does add some drama of “Do you want to win this challenge even though it might negatively affect your game?” I miss individual reward challenges in general. They do so few now and outside of the loved ones it’s usually the castaways randomly separated into teams. There you be so much strategy in who you would pick to take with you on rewards. It’s a great way to show divisions in alliances and give the lower rungs a chance to make a move.
Also they used to have those social dynamic challenges, where everyone gets three [whatevers] and each person in turn breaks one of the three things for any player they choose. Once your three are gone you’re out, last person standing wins.
That was always my favorite. They need to bring it back.
As suggested above, maybe there should be an incentive to win the Loved Ones Challenge, like an advantage in the upcoming Immunity Challenge.
You might want to win the Loved Ones Reward, not only for the advantage in the Immunity, but to keep someone else from getting the advantage.
BTW, what do you think the chances that of the people who haven’t been to IotI (Tommy, Karishma, Dan, Dean) don’t know that Rob and Sandra are on that Island.
Elaine was right … Noura really is a froot loop.
Another week without Rob & Sandra. I hope they didn’t pay them (much) for this.
I fast forwarded through the loved ones segment.
Just popped in to say the cameras sure love Noura this season…Not that I mind.
But, was she wrong? It seems to me her point at TC (badly expressed) was that Dan was in fact not planning to vote along with the “outcasts” and thus her and Elaine’s and Charisma’s plan to vote Tommy out was being betrayed by him.
Of course, her tactics were, um, non-existent.
Of course, the self-satisfied smugness of the four players at their picnic was nauseating. I soooo hope someone smacks that off their faces damn quick.