Some people in the past have insisted that everything outside of the actual broadcast episodes be considered spoilers. And they included the previews at the end of the show and network commercials for the upcoming episode.
Personally, that’s further than I would go. I watch the previews and look at the CBS sites and the information I find there doesn’t bother me. I figure they’re not going to reveal anything “important”. But I try to respect the opinions of others by concealing anything based on what I saw in those previews.
For speculations, the rule is consider the sources. If the speculation is based on information that would be concealed by a spoiler than the speculation should be concealed by a spoiler. Some people don’t understand that distinction, they think that as long as they don’t directly reveal what they’ve read on spoiler sites, they’re free to say anything else.
I recall one poster, who freely admitted he knew who the final two were going to be, and who insisted every week on speculating on who would be voted off. Obviously, he never guessed either of the two he knew were in the final two and anyone who read his guesses would easily figure out who the final two were by a process of elimination. The poster said we were being too sensitive when we complained about what he was doing. I just stopped reading any Survivor thread that season to avoid having the ending ruined for me.
Fair enough concerns. Would we prefer that “official” information – previews, network sites, and verifiable internet info (i.e., Yahoo! TV, TiVo, etc.) – be spoiler-boxed? I open that question to anyone out there who is concerned about this. Let us know! We live to serve! Otherwise, we’ll leave “officially published” info as-is.
Regarding speculation, I agree with you 100%. Any speculation I post here (this season, anyway) is totally based on my own feverish imaginings and nothing else. I guarantee you I won’t be giving anything away. However, anyone who has “inside” or otherwise “unofficial” information, please box it! I’m blissfully ignorant and I want to stay that way. Help me work on my resistance to temptation.
Well, that’s just assy. I really hope that poster wasn’t me. I don’t imagine that it was, as I am easily swayed by misinformation (and, let’s face it, equally unwilling to accept the truth about favorite contestants if it’s unpleasant), but in case it was, I can’t apologize enough. When I post tonight, I will try to avoid using names so as not to ruin it for patient folks like Johnny L.A. who are stuck on the other side of the world.
Wow, this thread is so serious this week. It’s like it’s not even us here.
That’s funny; I was just thinking about that this morning. I was hoping we would not have to deal with the time zone issue at all this go-around. Yeah, some of us live on the East Coast and get to see it first, and some others live on the West Coast and have to wait. I usually don’t come and post right after it airs (I’m watching Earl and The Office instead) - I come and read a bit in the morning and post in the afternoon or evening on Friday. I hate having to wade through all the politely spoiler-boxed posts that the East Coasters make right after the show.
I’m of the opinion that once the show airs, it’s fair game for open posting.
Anyone who has watched it can discuss it openly without spoiler boxes. That’s what the thread is for, right?
I understand that it’s a little unfair for those on the West Coast, but it’s only a matter of hours.
With movie or book threads, someone might have to wait days or weeks.
As long as no one spoils anything in a thread title, it’s okay.
No kidding. We need a good jelly fish sting or pelican scare to liven things up.
Holy cow … I know jayjay was sort of kidding when he mentioned it last week, but at certain angles, Misty really does look like Amber. Creeeeeeeeeeepy.
just for the record, I really don’t like Shane the nerotic whiney quitter and Aras for talking Shane into his latest neurotic flipflop so he could get rid of one of the old chicks because of course they couldn’t have any value to the team. grrrr.
I agree with whoever it was in the past who expressed the desire for a new Survivor rule: If you say you want to quit, you’re out. Instant. Do not pass go. Do not collect your stipend. The helicopter comes and takes you away before lunch.
jayjay, I think you just created the new alternative title and slogan for this season. “Survivor: Jackhole Island - NO TAKEBACKS!” This episode was weird. I just … don’t even know what to say. Some random thoughts, and then I think I need to go sleep this one off:
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[li]Zombie heads? Cool! The world would be a much better place if there were more zombie heads.[/li][li]Swearing on one’s own children is so Twila.[/li][li]Cirie is seriously the klutziest klutz ever, and I have no idea how she got onto this show, but I bet it’s because she let a producer touch her boobies.[/li][li]Dear Tonight’s Cast-Off: Um, you stink. Leave the snark to us professionals, OK?[/li][/ul]
Yeah, that’s all I got. I hope something actually happens soon, or this is going to be one helluva snooze-a-riffic season, I fear.
I agree that it was a strange episode overall. I don’t think they’ve ever shown a strong four-person alliance this early in the season. I also don’t think anyone’s ever been stupid enough to reveal their four-person alliance this early in the season. I also don’t think anyone’s switched gears from “votemeoutI’msickofthisplaceIhateitvotemeoutpleeeeease” to “okay…one of you is going” quickly enough to pop a clutch this early before.
If these folks don’t start to pace their reality show cliches, they’re going to run out of pre-fab behaviors within a week and have to actually be original before they even merge.
Eh, that’s nothin’. The Queen of Petty is still Sandra from Pearl Islands. She thought she was being voted out at TC, so she took the barrel full of fish they’d caught and were storing for an after-TC dinner, took it out into the woods, and dumped it out. Then let her ally take the blame.
Now THAT’S petty that I can’t even defend. And I LIKED Sandra.
Man, Shane really is the poster child for nicotine withdrawal, isn’t he? Talk about whacked out. It’s like he needs the nicotine to provide a filter between what’s left of his brain and his mouth. Assuming he had on in the first place, of course.
What I couldn’t understand was why they’d want to keep that tool, and completely overlook the fact that they’d be replacing him right away with Bruce, who is his diametrical opposite. I just do not get them. Any of them. Aras for wanting to keep Shane, and the rest of their alliance for going along with it. Good grief, sheeple, anyone?
Half of that alliance consists of the “YOU make a decision” sisters. Those two are going to do whatever the boys tell them to, even if they “really hate it”. All Aras and Shane are thinking is “get rid of the old gals so we can spend more time with the Ambers” and I have no idea what Bobby was thinking once he found out there’s a solid four-person young alliance in his tribe and he’s not in it but still voted with them.
Talk about a whirlwind of disappointment. My roommates have taken to giving the people funny and sometimes inappropriate names. “Sonny McSmokerson” = Shane, “Lady McBigBoobs” = Cerie. Yes I see a Mc-- pattern developing but it’s funny so I just run with it.
I want to like Shane. I do. He’s so crazy he almost goes full circle. Like the Gremlin car, so ugly it’s cute. Shane’s so nucking FUTZ that I just want to like him. But damn I don’t know if I would have let him last this long.
I thought putting Bruce on the island would prove more interesting than it did, we hardly saw anything of him on the island. My roommates were expecting him to go feral or cut down half the forest with his samurai chop and build himself a throne. I mean seriously. We expected an almost Lost effect with the trees moving and strange metal sounds coming from the forest.
I don’t think Melinda or Cerie got the memo about how to play Survivor. It’s 3-4, sway somebody if it looks like you’re going home. Grab one of the girls on the foursome and influence, coerce, and talk her into being on your side. But instead all we see is them pouting and getting upset at being the targetted pair.
When they did team picks, I was stunned when Cerie went before the other girl (not Melinda). And surprised Bruce got left so long. I mean, I guess he doesn’t look that impressive but… never count out the small asian guy.
Jeff does such a great job at inciting discussion and disruption. I loved how he called on Misty asking how her team was, and then addressed the other tribe which let Shane pipe up. Shane’s dancing a dangerous line and he needs to get his ass in gear before he goes home.
I have to say I am liking La Mina’s chances, they got a very strong team. If only they had gotten Bruce too. Ah well, I guess we can’t have another rout in team immunity challenges.
It wasn’t a great episode but this season is shaping up with its series of looneys and craziness.
Firestarters are made of magnesium. Magnesium burns. Hot. Do you really think that a big block of metal is really necessary just to hold the flint? Shave off some metal and ignite it!
Did I see it wrong, or was Bruce pulling the flint toward him instead of striking the flint with the blade? I thought he was going to cut himself on the matchete at one point. And ‘Out of flint.’? Dude. What were you doing? That flint is supposed to last a while.
‘Just be sure you hold onto it.’ That’s what someone said about the Hawaiian sling. So of course… Who was the guy on the raft? Reminds me of The Lost Skeleton Of Cadavra: ‘Oh, well!’ Couldn’t be be bothered to at least make an attempt to dive for it?
I like the idea of building a throne on Exile Island. And a crown. I wonder what they’d do if you refused to leave?
I see Aras’s logic: If Shane goes now, that makes it three vs. three and Bruce, probably being of sound mind (though I won’t be placing any bets on that just yet), would side with the non-wackos and leave the wackos outnumbered. This way, Shane stays another three days, they still hold the advantage 4-3.
But I think this tribe is toast either way: they’re fractured and have too many fringe personalities to work well together.
Not to hijack anything here, but I catered the Grammys last night and, while I wouldn’t recognize a music star if they banged their drum in my ear, one person I did (barely) recognize at my food station was Stephenie LaGrossa. She was definitely in Survivor Reunion episode mode, complete with way too much war paint and scary eyebrows, but returned my smile and seemed nice.
Oh, and it appears she’s eating much less than she did during her stint on Survivor. IMHO, seems she’s doing what it takes to make it with the Hollywood crowd and is losing touch with herself in the process. Or maybe it’s just like someone wrote in a previous thread: “You can take the girl out of Jersey, but you can’t take the Jersey out of the girl” and she looks like that whenever she’s not stranded on a Guatemalan shore.
