Oh, and I was surprised to see Probst plea for younger players (15,16,17 year olds) to apply to be on Survivor. IMO, it’s quite one thing for a full grown adult to play this game, which involves food deprivation, isolation, lying and back-stabbing. It’s another for a kid who’s not even fully developed physically or emotionally to be thrown in a game like that. Add in fame, money, and having their cell phone taken away for a month…and it’s a recipe for a seriously messed up kid.
Just MO.
I was wondering if it was some scaled down version of Survivor.
Admittedly I haven’t read/heard any of the post game interviews yet, but Sarah having an HII (real or fake) shouldn’t stop them voting for Sarah in the re-vote. I don’t think you can play HIIs in a revote.
Wheelz, every time I see you in this thread, I think of Dreamz, lol.
I hear what you’re saying about Tony gaslighting the others, but when they all seemed so shocked to hear that the jury loved Tony, I just wondered if they were getting high on their own supply. It can’t be chalked up to editing, either: he won three immunities and quite publicly engineered big moves in front of the jury. No amount of gaslighting should have blinded them to this.
Frankly, I’d like to see a list of people who either didn’t play with Tony this season (got voted out before the merge and weren’t on his tribe) or tried to get Tony out and were thwarted in their efforts. Those people get a pass; everyone else gets a huge side-eye from me for not seeing the obvious.
Apparently, they sent all the players nice cameras so they could do some kind of virtual reunion. And of course you’re right: the excuse they gave was bullshit. Not only could they have easily cut thirty minutes from what was shown, even cutting FIVE minutes would have given us about ten times what we got! (I’m not counting the time spent reading votes.) What it felt like to me was that they wanted to have more control over what went over air than they would have gotten with a live discussion. And that’s shitty.
They had all of them on the screen at the beginning. I’ve done these kinds of calls with eight or ten people and it works fine. But at the very least, they could have reserved a few more minutes for the three finalists! Neither MIchele nor Natalie got to say a single word IIRC, and Tony got to say only a sentence or two.
Yeah, it’s a perverse scenario. Does that mean you only try to win that F4 challenge if you don’t see many jury votes for you, and use it as a Hail Mary to go against the player who has the most jury support?
The season he won, he was gifted a bunch of dodos, or maybe sheeple is a better word (like Kim in her winning season). It’s hard to imagine any intelligent players with backbone going along with his authoritarian “buddy system” “Robfather” game. In which case he’s not really much of a player unless we see him show some other gears.
All very well said.
Wentworth?
I may have mentioned it upthread, but Probst’s mea culpa was a nice surprise. People have been critiquing him for years, and it wasn’t clear that it was getting through to him at all (although I have generally defended him as being flawed but not as bad as many people say).
During that season, people didn’t criticize her, really; I was just frustrated at the time that they paid absolutely no attention to her at all, when I thought she was playlng masterfully. Then after she won, people erupted with outrage. She referenced that a few times in her producer interviews this season.
To me, she is a better version of Sandra: not organizing alliances or big moves, obviously, but bobbing and weaving and avoiding ever being hit (she has yet to be voted out). What makes her better than Sandra IMO is that she doesn’t piss people off, and is actually a challenge threat.
Wait, what? I usually enjoy Ponderosa, but how can there be Ponderosa this season when everyone was on EoE?
Right, like without limiting food at least. You can’t be starving growing teens.
Only because Sarah saw it wrapped up in the buff around her wrist. But criticism is justified: Why did Natalie hide it so poorly? And also yes, they should have kept looking.
In general I agree with you, but you can gain a certain element of trust by letting others know you have an idol.
They all went to Ponderosa for those last few days after Natalie went back in.
Making fire is one thing. Making a fire quickly when a million dollars is on the line is something else altogether.
That fire making challenge this week was intense, it kept going back and forth. I would have been happy with Sarah winning and I think she would have won the game had she got to the final three.
Does anyone remember the fire making challenge that went on and on until they finally gave both players matches?
Absolutely! We mention it every time they have one of those challenges. It took like 2 hours and Becky only won because the other player literally ran out of matches.
Definitely should have been an “OK, you are both eliminated” moment.
Good comparison of reactions:
https://preview.redd.it/6wm3bp87oqy41.png?width=768&auto=webp&cd1d1e3d
Speaking of which, I totally forgot that Parvati’s first season was Cook Islands.
Listened to Cesternino’s exit interviews with the final six players.
A lot of what was said has been repeated here.
Apparently Sarah told Natalie and Michele that she would work with them to vote out Ben in final 5, and that is why they voted Denise at Final 6 Tribal Council.
Speculation is that Michele would have got votes to win, except that jury members were afraid that a vote for Michele was a vote against Tony, and Natalie might win with a plurality rather than a majority.
Sarah also said that Parvati had some catty remarks about her (Sarah).
Enalzi, 403 error on that link
Listened to Cesternino’s exit interviews with the final six players.
A lot of what was said has been repeated here.
Apparently Sarah told Natalie and Michele that she would work with them to vote out Ben in final 5, and that is why they voted Denise at Final 6 Tribal Council.
Speculation is that Michele would have got votes to win, except that jury members were afraid that a vote for Michele was a vote against Tony, and Natalie might win with a plurality rather than a majority.
Sarah also said that Parvati had some catty remarks about her (Sarah).
Enalzi, 403 error on that link
I legit want a season with 20 runner-ups. You talk about a second-chance season? I want it made up of only runner-ups, and no runner-ups who later won. Just people who took second.
I feel like a torch has been passed and Rob, Sandra and Parvati are fading. I could definitely get behind more Sarah and Tony either as returning gurus or a buddy cop remake of Beverly Hills Cop.
Coming this summer: Tony Vlachos and Sarah Lacina in…
Spy Nest!
I’d watch the shit out of that.
Phil is the special agent trying to catch the spies (or is he?) and Tyson is the wacky neighbor.
Also, how is Tony not the voice of an animated dog? Street smart big city police dog Tony relocates to the deep south to investigate crime: In the Heat of the Spy Nest!
Eh, that’d be a lot of goats other than Dom. I would like to see the next All-Stars be all players who have only played once, and maybe got to at least the final 6.
The only thing I remember about Cook Islands is Parvati and Ozzy and Yul naked in the hot tub. Parv and Ozzy were naked not sure about Yul
