Merge and the (first?) EoE competition to get back into the game.
Here are the EoEers with my handicapping of getting back into the game
Tyson - One token and probably the best skilled to win obstacle/carnival challenges. 3-1
Natalie - 4 tokens and probably the most bad ass. 5-1
Rob - 3 tokens. (and might get Amber’s token) 6-1
Yul - No tokens, 12-1
Parvati - No tokens 20-1
Danni - One token, 20-1
Amber - One token - 40-1 (probably bequeaths Rob her token.)
Players that last the longest in the game are the most handicapped at the EoE challenge because they haven’t had a chance to accumulate tokens.
If Tyson or Rob get back in the game, I think they will be voted out immediately if they don’t have immunity
The other EoEers gets through a couple of Tribal Councils before they are voted out.
I still think it’s bullshit they let Rob & Amber both play in a season together, and the likelihood of one of them giving a token to the other makes it completely ridiculous. What possible in-game reason could one EoE denizen have to give a token to another one? There’s nothing to trade it for, no votes going on, nothing. But it’ll happen, because the producers are perfectly happy bending their own rules if they think it’ll get the contestants they want further in the game.
They gave each returnee one of those split immunity idols, that they had to give one half to someone else, and then if/when the pieces were rejoined, it would become a real immunity idol. But that couldn’t happen until after the next TC, so the returnee could be immediately voted out.
As it happened, Rick Devens (1st return) was a potential target at the TC right after he returned and got some votes, but someone else was voted out. When Chris returned, someone else played an idol for him that negated his single vote.
Eh, I think you’re making too much of it. If anything, Rob and Amber are at a disadvantage because they’re seen as huge targets - as evidenced by the fact they were both voted off before the merge.
Maybe one of them gets back in the game; maybe that person has extra tokens. They’re still unlikely to get anywhere near Final TC, in my opinion.
Does anyone remember what the fire token menu at EoE had? I remember they could get an advantage for the return challenge or an idol, but I don’t remember how much.
IIRC, you pay one token for “one” advantage at the EoE Challenge. There are three possible advantages, so if you have 3 tokens you can buy an advantage.
Guessing: there are at least three stages to the EoE challenge, and there is an advantage at each stage.
Lets say Stage I is a wall to climb over., The advantage could me a shorter wall
Stage II is to crawl under a net. The advantage would be a higher net
Stage III is unlocking a lock to get a bag of puzzle pieces, The advantage would be less keys to choose from
I think you can also buy a HII for three tokens.
Here is the Token bank accounts for the EoE players that I posted last week
So notfrommensa, do you handicap horse races in your spare time?
The interesting thing about the advantage is that it saved you digging time, but also saved you exhausting yourself and having to do the ramp/ball puzzle with arms that feel like rubber.
And it looks like this time they didn’t give Tyson anything.
That’s a good point. The biggest difference is that their alliance is in no way secret, which 2 people agreeing to split a prize would be (secret from the other players at least).
But it turns out Amber did give Rob her single token so he could buy an HII, instead of buying herself an advantage. I wonder if he’d still get that HII if he returns to the game in the second EoE challenge.
Not too much to say about the episode other than that there was clearly more planning on the vote than was shown. Sophie was confident for a reason, and we only really saw discussion centering on the Ben/Tony/Jerome threesome, which is clearly a minority in a tribe of 12.
A bit odd that we weren’t given any indication of what Tyson/Sarah/Denise/Kim were thinking (other than a clearly play-acting Denise saying she was fine with Adam going - nice job there, even though Ben ended up voting Wendell anyways). Hard to really suss out where the loyalties lie.
In the end another pre-existing relationship was targeted, which I suppose made it an easy vote.
The end result was +Tyson -Wendell, which is a net win for the viewer, I think.
It seems pretty wide open right now, because they haven’t shown too many strong groups of any size. I guess Sophie/Adam/Denise are tight. Maybe Kim/Tyson will work together, but with who? And Ben/Tony/Jerome want to play the “big boys” game - maybe they bring in Kim, Tyson, and Sarah for 6? Nick and Michelle are out in the cold now, so who knows where they go… Should be interesting next episode.
I must admit I only half pay attention to this show, but it seems to me that they’ve changed something about the way they edit these episodes. Used to be you could sorta piece together the clues to figure out who was going to be voted out; now it’s BLINDSIDE BLINDSIDE BLINDSIDE every week. They intentionally don’t show you any of the conversations that would indicate such-and-such person is going home, so even if it was patently clear to everyone on the island, the viewer is left “stunned.” Blindsides aren’t all that stunning when they happen every week.
I agree, editing is completely out of touch with what happened. They showed no hint that Wendell would be main target. Sure it was mentioned in the group but it was quickly shut down and moved on.
Poor editing imo.
But it turns out Amber did give Rob her single token so he could buy an HII, instead of buying herself an advantage. I wonder if he’d still get that HII if he returns to the game in the second EoE challenge.[/QUOTE]
Yeah Amber is just there to give Rob a edge and it’s unfair. I think the Producers are helping Rob.
I agree, and it’s frustrating for hardcore fans of the show. I’ve said for years that they should offer an “expert version” of each episode that people could buy on iTunes (or they could provide it on CBS All Access to boost their subscription numbers). It might be a relatively small fraction of viewers who would want this, but I think at three bucks a pop they could make enough from it to make more profit than it would cost to pay for the extra editing hours. And it really wouldn’t have to be all slickly edited, with musical transitions and wildlife shots. Just give us some straight-up video of how things went down.
That would be awesome. Even just an after the fact video that has some confessionals explaining why folks voted how they did, what conversations they had, etc. I would sign up for All Access (at least during Survivor season) just for that.
I agree the editing seems to have been dumbed down, or just plain sloppy, the last few seasons. It’s getting much harder to get a feel for who is doing what and for what reason. Unless, of course, it’s that the players themselves have gotten far more cagey with what they are willing to say on camera - which is certainly possible I suppose. But there had to be some conversation between Kim/Tyson/Sarah/Sophie where they decided Wendell. I don’t buy for a second that the big guys (Ben/Jerome/Tony) made that call and everyone else just went along with it.
Heck, how about the episode where Boston Rob got voted out. Last time we saw anyone talk about voting was Rob, Ben & Adam at the well agreeing to vote Sarah, then they all sat around staring at each other because of Rob’s lockdown rule. Unless they all communicated by blinking morse code, there must have been some conversations between the 4 of them. Sarah had a steal a vote, and Sophie had an idol, I can’t believe neither one of them played something just based on trusting what Ben & Adam told them before the challenge.