Survivor: South Pacific December 7 2011

I can’t believe that no one has yet postted about how Cochrane was about a half-inch from defeating Ozzy in the duel.

So if Coach has picked Hantz Jnr. to be in the final 3 with him, who is his other choice? Princess Albert or the Invisible Cowboy?

I find the “cult of Coach” really annoying.

This is why I don’t like returning players. A certain percentage of people seem star-struck by these reality show losers, and it destroys the chemistry of the game.

It’s not AS annoying as the “Cult of Boston Rob” but I absolutely agree.

I also do not like returning players. There is an imbalance to the contestants right off the back, both good and bad. For instance, on the flip side of “Oh my God, it’s the celebrity Boston Rob!”, we have the notorious Russell Hanz. His team disliked him from the get go, based mainly on his reputation from prior shows. They didn’t get to slowly discover his evil, manipulative side – which makes for the best kind of drama.

It does free them up to make bold moves, such as Ozzy agreeing to be voted off to go to Redemption island to face off the bitchy teacher from Long Island, because by the third time around they’re not as paranoid or desperate for the million bucks. But it takes away from the impact! Had a first-time player such as Keith done what Ozzy did, it would be so much more powerful, because he wouldn’t have the advantage that Ozzy has in facing challenges. After two dozen challenges, Ozzy’s faced just about every type of challenge the producers can throw at them, and so they don’t have the learning curve obstacle that first time players have. And that’s a distinct advantage.

For instance, Coach SHOULD have won the “don’t box yourself into a corner” because he’s done something similar already and learned from his mistakes.

That competition looked edited all to hell, and I suspect that the very ending wasn’t actually as close as it looked. With the camera’s extreme close-up on the balls ;), there’s no way to know that was footage from the actual competition or that it wasn’t edited out of order.

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So you’re saying that Cochrane almost got the ball in the center hole AFTER Ozzy had already won? I didn’t say it was as close as the editing made it look, but I still claim that at some point in the duel Cochrane almost won.

I spend at least half of each episode thinking the players are colossally stupid. Edna complaining that she was sixth was pathetic. Players behave as if they’ve never seen the show before.

I don’t think Cochrane could have gotten jury votes. No one liked him. No one likes people like him. Of course that’s my take but do challenge losing annoying weenies get votes generally?

The people on Coach’s tribe, especially those remaining are actually stupid. They know he has an idol but have made no play against it. It’s easy to see who Coach wants at the end and that must include Brandon the crazy person. It should have included Edna but I’m guessing he wants Rick the pylon. How boring.

And how spineless is Edna. Brandon directly attacks her and then later apologizes like an abuser in her words and the only thing she can muster is to say that she had her feelings hurt and she was about to cry. Grow some freakin balls. How about, “take your stupid non-apology and go fuck yourself you worthless piece of shit.” That would be appropriate and given the mood of the other people on the tribe I don’t think they’d fault her for it.

No, I agree with you that he came very close to winning earlier in the comp. I was just talking about the photo-finish that seemed contrived.

Speaking of pieces of shit…did I hear right when Edna was talking to Albert and Sophie? About what she would do if she was wrong that coach was willing to flip?

There is no ‘e’ in Cochran.

/pedantry

Or in the alternate spelling “Cock-Train” (Was it Ozzy that wrote that?)

I think that if they want to involve former players, why not have two or three on each tribe. Yes, there is a possibility of collusion in that they might work together to eliminate everyone else, but c’mon. You wouldn’t want to see Evil Russell and Dragonslayer-Zeus develop their cults within the same tribe and battling Ozzy and Terry crushing the challenges on the same tribe (wait until individual immunity) with Yun and Boston Rob the strategists splitting thier tribe in admiration societies ?

No, I wouldn’t want to see that, personally. Bringing in past players is unfair to new players in my book.

I think they should have an all-female cast. It would eliminate some of the well-established themes in the show by leveling the playing field. The usual strategy of keeping the strong until the merge and then voting them off wouldn’t work so well when the gap between strong and weak is much smaller. It may increase the value of other roles, like the provider and the shelter makers.

Plus, cattiness.

I think the Upolu tribe has been upfront with Cochran and Edna regarding their position on the tribe.

But that doesn’t make for good TV, so they only show the 5 minutes when Edna got emotional and not the rest of the day after Coach calmed her down and reminded her she still has a legitimate shot with Redemption Island.

Coach had a valid point that sending Brandon to RI would piss him off and Brandon could win and come back. And his answer about what would happen to him if he used his hidden idol on Edna was exactly spot on. So it seems Coach has everything figured out.

As far as eating a piece of Coach’s shit, Edna has been cozied up inside Coach’s rectum for most of the game so it’s probably no big deal for her.

And, bikinis.

My twist on this one–have one season where one tribe is all women+1 alpha male and one tribe is all male+1 hot chick. If they want to keep the 2 returning players thing, making them the sole tribe member of their gender would be awesome. Survivor+Bachelor/ette=guaranteed reality TV gold.

I think there was one season where there was an all girl and an all guy tribe, and halfway to the merge, they traded one player. But I may be wrong and somehow confusing past seasons of survivor with past seasons of Hell’s Kitchen. Lord help me.

Something like that–Vanuatu was divided by gender and two players were switched from each tribe pre-merge. A fairly attractive former girlfriend of Probst was among the switched (Julie Berry). That turned out to be one of my favorite seasons…

Anyway, I think it would be pretty chaotic if someone like Parvati/Amanda/Jenna M. were in a tribe of men and someone like J.T./Tyson/Yul were in a tribe of women–much more interesting than the previous three pairings of returning players.

Coach was fired!

That happened after his first appearance on Survivor.

Wife and I were surprised to see Ozzy cuddling with Cochrane this week. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.