Anyone else see this last night? The premise was a bit intriguing, but the wife and I kept wondering why the two who hid the briefcase would say anything useful to the investigators.
One of the two brothers was enjoying the game and laughing at the investigators, but the other was really weak and eventually just told them where the briefcase was. So does the show depend on at least one of the players being really fragile and easily manipulated?
Now I know that in a *real *police interrogation, even the strongest people can be made to confess, sometimes even to things they didn’t do. But this isn’t a real interrogation. Here, there’s no fear of being of being physically abused, no fear of going to prison for the rest of your life. Everyone knows it’s a game show. So wouldn’t you just laugh at their questions and have fun with them?
There was a point last night where one of the investigators said very sternly and ominously to one of the brothers, “I don’t like being lied to.” I would have said, “Then you shouldn’t be playing this game!”
What is unclear is what are the rules of the game that the contestants must abide by. Otherwise, why say anything to the detectives? Also why take the car with the GPS? Just set out on foot and hide the case.
Clearly, you are required to stay with the vehicle and can only be away from it for a limited amount of time, and you must also be required to interact with the detectives.
It would be more interesting viewing experience if we knew what all of the rules were.
Agreed that we need to know the rules. It seemed that they had to take the car with the GPS locator, had to have the briefcase locked on the wrist until hiding it, and knew that their phone calls would be traced.
Other than that, we don’t know the rules about whether they have to cooperate with the investigators or must tell the truth sometimes. Can they just refuse to answer? Can they sit there and smile at the investigators? Is it totally up to how successful the investigators are at manipulating the “prisoners” or do they have some game rules on their side?
Apparently, we’re not talking about the Woody Allen movie. Darn.
I came in here to post pretty much exactly that.
I was wondering about the rules also. It appears to me that some of the rules must include:
- They have to talk to the investigators. They can lie, but they have to at least make an effort at answering the questions.
- They have to stay together. Otherwise, it would be too easy for one to hop out of the car and walk for blocks to hide it, while the other just drove the car around randomly.
It was amusing to watch, in a way. But I don’t see it as a sustainable premise. It was interesting to see how the investigators worked, though. I did enjoy that.
I saw this.
I knew Paul was going to crack like an egg. The rule is that all questions must be answered, but both sides are expected to lie and do their best to deceive the other. So he can’t make up enough long-winded BS and misdirection to kill some time? Jeez, it’s not even real. It’s a game and he can’t take having his personal bubble invaded for $100,000?
Raul made me laugh. He had the right idea on how to handle it. Chill and take lots of naps to pass the time.
My wife kept saying that looked like heaven to her: A quiet room with a bed where she could sleep for hours. Wake up occasionally and spout some nonsense to the investigators, go back to bed, repeat, win a $100,000.
I want to know what the “foot detectives” were doing the whole time. The interrogators got all of the addresses, etc. Does anyone know if there are any Dunkin’ Doughnuts near Golden Gate park? There were enough time problems (the biggest one being when the cop asked the guys hanging out in GG park if they had seen anyone “yesterday afternoon” when it should have been 3-4 hours ago that I knew that they had to play with the timeline A LOT) so I think little brother cracked much earlier than portrayed. It looks like from the scenes for the next episode they keep the interrogators but get new “foot cops” which makes sense. I think the lack of investigating anything about their condition at pickup was dumb by the cops. Even Raul knew to was their hands, but what about much on shoes, dirty knees, sweaty, any clues in car.
What I fear the most is that they chose the most compelling story first and the other heists are worse than this one.
This being the Straight Dope perhaps we can come up with an “optimal” hiding strategy.
Possibilities
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I think that the case either needs to be buried or hidden in bushes etc.
(It seems that accomplices have to be somewhat honest in answering questions)
(Anything else like a garbage can, bathroom stall has high probability of being uncovered within 48 hours)
(I don’t think that the cash is in the briefcase, but if the general public finds it first does that mean it has been found by police? The homeless man comment alluded to such last night) -
Call someone you and investigators can know. Have that person add in another phone number for a 3 way call tell them to erase call history after the phone call and to just step away from the phone so they can’t hear anything for next hour. Hand the person that gets added to 3 way call the briefcase while driving by.
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Intentionally head for traffic jam and have someone jump out and put briefcase up in the bushes/culvert along the road.
Is there another strategy for “stalling” driving while doing something else? Mall parking lot? (parking structure? underground one?) Circumnavigating park while hiding it and then meeting on the other side?
Yeah, at the end when the detectives were being happy, I was wondering why? What did they do? The interrogators did all the work.
As for the interrogations. I imagine that these non-criminals did the worst thing possible, they answered the questions asked. But the conversation might have gotten to the same point, because the interrogators had the gps and phone logs. So when asked, “Where’d you go next?” the Hider should’ve said, “straight from where we got the money to where we were picked up” and then it would be up to the interrogator to say, “here’s a map of your driving, let’s start again…I know you went here, Why?”
But because those two guys were so helpful, it was never necessary to show those cards.
Even if the Hiders (can’t call them criminals :P) stonewall the interrogators, I’m sure there’s ways of making them talk. (legal of course) The 48 hours must be part of it.
There must be a rule that the accomplices must tell the truth too. Cause those ‘interrogations’ went soo quickly. “Did you see them” - “No” - “Ok, check him off” (?!)
In the end I’ll watch a few more, but I’m not really sure who to root for. We’ll see if the Hiders get more complex in their Hiding. For the pilot, I’m glad that the one brother kept up his front until he saw the case, and that he was so gracious in defeat.
The two detectives were happy because they get to split the $100,000. They are also contestants on the show. The two interrogators are employees of the show.
Yeah, but the only thing they did was ask 3 simple questions and then look through the park. I guess my question was worded poorly, not Why were they happy, but Why did they think they deserved it?
I heard about this on the radio but did not see the show. I wonder if it’s against the rules to just go to the UPS store and send yourself the package 3 days later. When they ask you where it is, you say “in transit bitches”. I assume that’s gotta be against the rules.
Per Jerry Bruckheimer’s blog:
Overview
A team of 2 contestants are given 1 hour to hide a briefcase with $100,000. The money cannot be separated from the briefcase. A team of 2 real investigators and 2 seasoned interrogators then hunt down the money, using any tactics/knowledge they have from real experience. If the detectives find it, they keep the money. If the contestants can keep it hidden, they keep the money.
Some rules:
Teams must use the vehicle.
They can park it and walk somewhere.
They can use pay phones.
Detectives get GPS information tracking the vehicle, cell phone records.
The briefcase must be hidden somewhere accessible 24 hours a day.
Anyone the contestants use to hide the money must be accessible by detectives.
All questions must be answered, but both sides are expected to lie and do their best to deceive the other.
I watched it. It looks heavily favored toward the detectives. I figured the hiders must have to answer questions otherwise why wouldn’t they “lawyer up?” Interesting premise for a show, but I probably won’t watch any more since they game the system so much. I was wondering, could the hider team just give it to one member of the team, drop off the other person on the team and then go hide it, so that only one member of the hiding team knows where it is? See if Raul had been the only one who knew where it was, he and Paul would be sharing the 100k right now and not the detectives.
I had the same problems as all of you. Good premise but the confusion on the rules made it seem really bizarre.
I did like when the detectives called the accomplice’s mother and got his home address from her. That was good police work.
I didn’t see the show but based on what I’m hearing, I doubt I could play it in a way the TV guys would like, what with telling the detectives that my neighbor’s dog is Satan and he told me where to hide the money.
I would invite everyone I know to get to the designated vehicle pronto. I would tell them that, if they were contacted, to tell the truth(I gave them nothing), but to do their best to look guilty while saying it. Use payphone to call a delivery service for an immediate pickup(tell them to bring a box and a mailing label). Slap a label to where I want it to go and hand it back.
Everybody leaves, and we wait to be picked up.
Wouldn’t work. Has to be left where it is accessible 24/7.