Taxonomic names to be revised, because racism

What part is tiring?

In the case of scientific names, it’s worth doing since it’s the globally recognized “official” name of the species so there’s value in it not reflecting some racist element or person.

In the case of “actual” common names, there’s value in doing it since those are the names that will appear in gardener’s books and websites and people will shift to calling it a “Spongy Moth” instead of a “Gypsy Moth” because the new name is what the sources are calling it.

In the case of a bunch of people calling a species by some local folksy racist name and being all “Haha, you elites can’t stop US from being racist!” then I suppose that’s true and the best we can hope for is that their children do better. At least when someone looks up a photo of Rudbeckia online to see what that flower is called, it’ll say the proper common name.

There is the Amorphophallus genus, meaning “shapeless dick”, with the most famous member (yes, I said “member”) being Amorphophallus titanium, “giant shapeless dick”.

That’s a contradiction. It wouldn’t be offensive if nobody cared.

What you may mean is that nobody you care about cares if people you don’t care about are offended by it.

I suspect that “what they will” will change over time. Especially if their kids start calling them on it.

– okay. I may well be missing something. If “black eyed Susan” is offensive, will somebody tell me why, and I’ll quit using it?

– oh. That’s not the term in your area. It’s the only common name I’ve ever heard for it, and I’ve never heard the ones you (wisely) blurred.

While it’s true that there are people offended by any sexual reference, that doesn’t seem to me to be the same sort of offense. Almost half the population has a peter in that sense of the word, and mentioning it isn’t in itself denigrating any or all of those people.

Never heard either.

Umm- how many of these changes are to scientific names, as opposed to common names?

The ones in the linked article are all taxonomic names.

If anything, I have seen a gradual relaxing of the clutch of pearls on sexual, anatomic and toilet terms in a very general sense (not sure how local a phenomenon that may be)

Well, then- they can bring back Eohippus. And Brontosaurus. I mean, they already dump the rules of 'first names stay" with Felis Leo, so now they have publicly stated they can change the names for non-scientific reasons.

I do wish they’d change the name of that planet.

Just because Pluto is also the name of a Disney dog doesnt mean it has to be changed- :crazy_face: :grinning:

Add another one who had never heard of that flower be called anything but “Black-eyed Susan”.

Well, maybe if they used the proper Greek pronunciation it would not be an issue.

Same here. And even if I had heard those other names in the past, I would have zero respect for anyone who used them today. (When I was a kid, Brazil nuts weren’t called Brazil nuts, but today I don’t hear people calling Brazil nuts not Brazil nuts. But I’m probably just not around the wrong type of person.)

Where I grew up, they were Brazil nuts. Where I moved, they were sometimes called nigger toes. However, I have never seen that on a grocery store sign, for example, or heard anyone use it in decades. I’m sure some still do.

I have no problem calling something what it’s called.

I generally don’t speak in public so I’m officially not NOT offending anyone.

Well, I may have offended that person screaming at me for using ASL, “Are you deef and dumb?”
But you know what? I didn’t get offended. I laughed.

Anyone seriously getting offended by a, most likely unknown, scientific name for a plant or bird possibly has too much time on their hands.

Cool. It’s commonly called Black-Eyed Susan so no need to use some other term or act as though it’s so “tiresome” to use its common name.

Hitler is easy. What’s more problematic is like, some bug named after a guy who was in the Hitler Youth, or named after Andrew Jackson or Bill Cosby.

I don’t generally go around talking about a roadside weed. Pretty as they are in giant swathes.

I was surprised they are Rudbeckia. Did not know that.

Even less reason then to act put-upon to use its actual name :slight_smile:

It’s called Black Eyed Susan.

There is that,

I promise you I’m not feeling put upon.

I just wanna know where this crap stops.

You can’t say anything anymore without worrying who you’re offending. I have a speech impediment, I have real fear of speaking to people. All this just adds to my fear.
I have no hope of beating this phobia.
I never would ever call someone a rude slur anyway. Not my way.