Hey it’s just the Pit … I’m not trying to win some great debate.
Out there in common use after those wonderful human beings at MSNBC jumped all over it.
Here’s another analogy that you can explain away for me… if a group of people called themselves “niggers” would that word be fair game?
You do like to leave little doubt in people’s minds, don’t you?
it’s an asinine comparison. Once more. “teabagger” is a deprecation of beliefs and behavior. Deprecating beliefs and behavior is not the same as deprecating genetic characteristics that a person has no control over. You can control being an idiot or an asshole, you can’t control being black or gay, nor does being black or gay have anything to do with what kind of person somebody is.
“Teabagger” is akin to something like “treehugger,” not to racial or homophobic slurs.
Too late. The train has left the station on that one.
Yes.
Does “smear” really apply?
Given the amount of hostility homosexuals still face, yes.
I think there should be a new rule, akin to Godwin’s. Except the rule is limited to this thread.
If your analogy uses the word “nigger”, you lose the argument. Just throw up your pitiful hands and give up.
Yes. It was used derrogatively even if it shouldn’t be.
Come to think of it, it makes no sense in that context, as I doubt that teabags had been invented by 1775.
If they’d wanted to choose an implement to evoke how Paul Revere and his buddies brewed tea, they really should have called themselves “Tea-Ballers.”
The poor Teabaggers! I’m so sad for them. All they did was politely express their well-reasoned political points of view, and they get called mean names by the mean liberal media. They should rename themselves the Pity Partiers.
Who are these ‘good people’ who are tea baggers?
As far as I can tell they are anarchists. They want the total over throw of the United States government via dismantling it.
Their ignorance about subjects seem to not be limited to what ‘tea bagging’ means.
If you’re going to call people ignorant, you should post ignorance.
Er, mission accomplished?
Shouldn’t.
I, for one, no joking aside, consider this to be an apt analogy. So I’ll answer it.
Yes, if a group of people gets together and calls themselves “niggers” then by all means, you, I, and especially the media should call them that. Why? Because
And, like your analogy, if they get distressed at getting called “teabaggers” we need to refer to #1 and then move on to #2 and call them “fucking retards” because they brought this whole thing upon themselves.
Oh, and I want you to focus in on #1. Because I think you’re missing the key point. They CHOSE to call themselves “teabaggers.” This wasn’t a slur of a vast left-wing conspiracy to make them look ridiculous. They called themselves teabaggers. They went to tea parties. They wore tea bags dangling from the rims of their hats!
And if they had just called themselves teabaggers and gone to tea parties and had tea bags dangling from the rims of their hats, Dayenu. But, bless their hearts, they also opened their mouths and spewed out the most imbecilic shit this country’s ever heard. So don’t you fucking dare start up a thread to try to ret-con this ridiculous glurge as something the mean ol’ media created in order to disparage the fine upstanding innocent people who attended the tea parties. It is the name they chose and they’re between a retard and a rock on the intelligence scale.
I think that they themselves started calling themselves this. Had someone pointed out the meaning to them, and then they changed their minds, a mulligan would be in order, or a “do-over” as the New Yorkers say. However, they stuck with it and as far as I can tell its us damn liberals that are reigning in the fun. Personally I’m happy to let them trip over their own dictions.
I was unaware that everyone knew Condi Rice was a lesbian. I didn’t know that. (Janet Reno is a bit too obvious for me to miss.) I thought she was going around making Freudian slips about her crush er husband, Pres GW Bush.
I’ve also got a suspicion that the first person to come up with this name was a pro who was making a joke and didn’t stop it early enough and now has to go along with it, like a Seinfeld episode.
I still don’t get why they’d pick the name, even not knowing what it meant. Doesn’t teabagging just sound like it would be slang for something inappropriate? I mean, if I heard so-and-so teabagged someone, I’d assume it was a bad thing.
In fact, the sexual meaning, to me, is unfortunate, as I don’t know why there would be anything inherently wrong with it. But I bet that meaning came first, was assumed to be performed by homosexuals, and then went the same route as “gay.”
Being the first to use the term and assigning the name to yourselves are a little differrent.
From the article linked above:
"The first big day for this movement was Tax Day, April 15. And organizers had a gimmick. They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office. One of the exhortations was “Tea Bag the Fools in D.C.” A protester was spotted with a sign saying, “Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You.” So, conservatives started it: started with this terminology. But others ran with it and ran with it. "
My phobia is limited to their “beliefs and behaviour”… guess it’s ok then.