Fire the coach but no jail time.
Kid also got exactly what he deserved.
Not remotely appropriate, and the teacher reacted far out of proportion to the offense. Firing? Jail time? Not sure without more detail and consideration, but it’s certainly not excusable unless it transpires that he was actively defending himself, which does not appear to be the case.
That said, my sympathy for the kid is highly limited. He shouldn’t have received a beatdown but sometimes when you poke a bear it bites your face off.
Yes, as a former teacher I can say no matter what, you cant touch a kid. Although a teacher is allowed to defend themselves. I have known teachers fired for this.
The correct thing for the teacher to do was write the kid up and hopefully and I really mean “hopefully”, the school will come down hard on the kid. Not just something lame like 3 days in ISS which they dont even have to do or the kid just gets transferred to another class. Heck, I’ve even seen them supposedly suspending the kid, then you notice they transferred him to another school and altered his grades so they now passed all their courses.
The other kids find out and do the same.
I find it a little worrying to hear so many people reacting to this beating with such barely concealed pleasure.
Verbal abuse and the throwing of a ball cannot ever mean that someone “deserves” a beating by a teacher. It was a 14 year-old boy. A child. Change the gender, knock a year off…at what point would you start thinking “actually…no, that isn’t OK” ?
One hopes those people aren’t the same ones eager to arm teachers.
Expel the kid, fire the teacher.
I would have done what I actually did do. I took all the crap that comes with teaching in 21st century America and then got out of teaching as soon as it was humanly possible for me to do so. Judging from the teacher numbers in Illinois, more and more people agree with me or have decided not to even get into the profession to begin with.
Of course I do not agree with assault and battery as a disciplinary measure but, in all honesty, I’m amazed that a lot more teachers don’t crack under the constant pressure and abuse that comes with being a classroom.
Furthermore, I believe that we are doing our youth a great disservice by pretty much tolerating anything they do (behavior) and anything they don’t do (learning) without making them accountable. We are teaching them from Pre-K through 12th grade that they aren’t responsible for anything and anything that goes wrong with them in school is pretty much anybody’s fault except theirs. After all of that, we somehow expect them to be responsible adults when they leave system.
Knock it off. Not an appropriate attribution, even sarcastically.
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Have you not been on this board for nearly 9 years and have you not seen which poster are here?
If this was Florida, the kid would be qualified to be the governor now.
If your kid threw a basketball at your legs and called you names, do you think he would deserve a punch to the face?
Bad teacher! BAD! – And – “See, boys and girls, how quickly your bad manners can turn you into a victim?”
And his fatal shooting of the teacher would be protected under Stand Your Ground.
Sometimes in life you should be allowed to punch someone one time - no more than that so make it count. This is one of those times.
I’ve seen the complete cellphone video and the attack is prolonged with the teacher pursuing the student who is also fighting back, and he takes a cheap shot from another student.
Bottom line is… you can’t put your hands on anybody especially a student and/or minor.
One thing I’ve learned over the years is that you can’t beat ignorance, arrogance, stupidity, racism, sexism, etc… out of people… no matter how you try.
There are words you can say to a person that justify being hospitalized?
WTF happened to “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?”
I think I’ve mentioned before that I don’t really notice who posts what. The only thing that sets each one apart is their name and I never really look at them so individual posters don’t necessarily ping my radar.
An upshot of that is that I try to treat every post on its own merit, a downside is…perhaps like this thread…that I perceive humanity letting me down time after time when it may only be a few choice individuals.
If you were an African-American that grew up during the Civil Rights fights and had friends and family and yourself beaten, harassed, humiliated and maybe castrated or lynched and then some entitled bitch-ass white boy calls you a nigger are you going to say words don’t hurt?
If the person were currently threatening lethal force against you I would agree.
If the person just attempted to kill you with a one-use weapon but failed, and is now obviously unarmed- and you’ve already “called for back-up” and currently have unambiguous physical superiority over the now-unarmed assaulter- the law is clear in the other direction. It’s well-established that a person with no current fear for his life cannot get personal vengeance against his own attempted murderer. This is very deep in law, in some ways this is what the law was established for.
This would be true even if the kid had fired a gun and then been disarmed.
The teacher needs to be in prison. A person who is in a position of authority does not get to act like that without consequences. I would be fine with the idiot student serving time, as well.
Whatever happened to civilized behavior? “Turn the other cheek”?
O, forgot. Trump happened. Both have gone by the wayside.
Yes
That was easy.