Technology doesn't work that way - SamuelA's Pit Thread

Fuck you. That very quote of your doesn’t dismiss shit, it refers to previous studies, you moron. Nowhere in your damn quote does it prescriptively say “so, since we’ve proven this is a bad idea…”.

It turns out that because I’ve been too damn lazy, you’ve been arguing from an opinion you pulled from your asshole.

No shit there would be some fucking drawbacks to climate engineering. But there’s also fucking drawbacks to insulin for diabetes (and yeah you’ll die in days without it). It doesn’t look like the future is going to have much choice.

You *do *realize that many of the “successful” models where climate change is controlled call for mass capture and sequestration of CO2 already in the atmosphere. And, well, like the original Moon landing plan, they probably won’t happen because they are too expensive to do.

What was the original Moon landing mission plan, by the way? Why was it impractical?

Do you know why it’s impractical to remove large quantities of CO2 from the atmosphere? Explain to me why.

And fine, I lied, but every plan to deal with climate change involves some type of climate engineering, whether it be SRM or sequesting CO2. Same fucking thing. So yeah, it fucking looks like the damn facts are in my favor and you’re a fucking idiot.

Go back to teaching high school or whatever you do. Though I think you’re a shitty teacher, you couldn’t teach special ed.

Less than two hours ago, you said you were done. Why are you still responding to him?

Why the fuck do you care? Or are you doing your usual threadshit thing?

Sammy’s problem (well, one of many) is that he seems incapable of thinking about anything beyond a surficial level. He is fond of saying he thought about something for a couple minutes and the solution is perfectly clear, and that lack of deep thought is obvious.

Hmmm, some gas doesn’t trap heat in the atmosphere? Perfect, just use that to solve global waming! But no thought to other impacts to things like to hydrological cycle, or how to determine the correct dosage.

Someone built a cableway up a mountain somewhere? Perfect, we can just do the same thing on any mountain. But no thought to how Everest is different from the other place. Brain synapses are electric signals? No problem, we can just write code to mimic them.

And with no additional thought, of course his solutions seem simple to him, and anyone who can’t see them must be a moron. He is incapable of considering that maybe everyone else has thought more than one level deep.

I just like it when people keep their word. Sorry if that offends you in some way.

We like it when you keep your word.

To yourself.

But… I don’t say this about every problem. Just ones where this approach seems to be valid. With insolation integrating satellites you can determine the effect of SRM and as for the dosage, obviously insolation levels pre CO2 increases are safe.

Similarly, Everest is factually the same as the other mountains, just higher and harder to access with present infrastructure. So it’s a completely reasonable conclusion to say if you can negate the effects of high altitude and build a way to get the tons of equipment in you can solve this problem expensively.

I don’t agree that every problem has a straightforward solution. Most problems don’t…

And the people arguing with me generally are the ones being more superficial. If you said “well what you didn’t know is, the mountains near Everest are festooned with seismic faults”, I would listen. That would be an example of actually participating in a discussion. Of you notice, the people arguing will just say “oh it’s impossible” with minimal or not justification.

Or speaking of superficial, wolfpup clearly hasn’t researched climate mitigation in any serious way. He just claims falsely that IPCC dismisses it and stops thinking about it.

And thus, for the two hundred forty-second consecutive week, the meeting of the D’Anconia Fan Club was adjourned due to lack of quorum.

And thus we establish that the attendance of a single halfwit does NOT constitute a quorum for an organization of one.

Jesus Christ. That’s fucking insulting. Teaching students with learning disabilities takes incredible skill and craft and training.

Do you actually think “special ed teacher” is an insult? Do you think SpEd is inferior teachers teaching inferior kids?

It was where he was in SpEd.

You sound a bit tense. Maybe it’s time for another “dating trip” to Eastern Europe?

Indeed. But you’re obviously not an aficionado of SamuelA, because this is a classic example of his absolute utter cluelessness. If you want to teach kids with learning disabilities, then according to Sammy’s brilliant reasoning it stands to reason that you need to have a teacher with teaching disabilities! This is just how Sammy thinks. Trust him, he’s “done the math”, and this will optimize the optimization of the learning curve, or something. Sammy has figured this out, and anyone who can’t see it is an idiot. You can trust him when he tells you it’s inevitable that in the future all special needs kids will be taught by stupid teachers!

I suppose it’s also possible he thinks that kids with special needs are worthless. Considering his racist and sociopathic beliefs that were commented on here, that would be consistent with the rest of his reprehensible and ignorant bullshit.

This is actually the intellectual equivalent – in terms of sheer cluelessness – to Sammy’s solution to the world’s climate problem that he so wonderfully articulated in post #952, wherein Sammy proposes “a thin layer of cheap gas”, and this magic gas will magically block sunlight, because it’s “the opposite of a heating gas” (Sammy’s own words). Sammy thus demonstrates a laughable abject ignorance of how greenhouse gases actually work and the basic principles of radiative transfer involved, just for starters. But trust him, because he’s “smart” and this is an “obvious” idea that is “certain to happen” (Sammy’s own words again), even though it doesn’t even make any fucking sense!

Just as a technical side note, even the most crackpot ideas for climate engineering always involve either CO2 sequestration – which does theoretically make sense – or some type of forced albedo changes on the surface or upper atmosphere. It’s the atmospheric albedo engineering that the IPCC so adamantly rejected, as I previously noted – Sammy’s actual idea is just blithering nonsense. But these other ideas have all been proposed by ordinary scientists who lack Sammy’s massive throbbing intellect and at least actually understand how the earth’s energy balance model works. Anyway, Sammy has already figured out that scientists are doing science all wrong. The pontificating moron actually has a whole thread about it!

So, what do you all think Sammy was actually reading when he thought he was looking at the IPCC documents?

I’m guessing “Packet of instant oatmeal.”

The time difference between that post and Sammy’s previous one, where he clearly had not even seen the IPCC document in question, was a whole nine minutes! Since the pertinent WG3 document is nearly 1500 pages, either Sammy is a VERY fast reader or he was reading something else, maybe “Why Does it Rain? Dick and Jane Learn about the Weather” – and I’m guessing he didn’t understand it.

Now I’m teaching and sometimes have children with various disabilities/ issues my hat is off to SpEd teachers. It’s less challenging to teach 28 regular kindergarten kids in one classroom than have certain SpEd students.

You no longer are even making me mad enough to reply with much energy, other than to simply quote the above statements as examples of incoherent ranting.

It is intellectually dishonest for you to try to claim that humans with severely diminished mental capacity are equal in worth to functional humans. This is lip service and an incoherent belief that society doesn’t even hold. (instant counterexample: felons. Humans are not all equally probable to become criminals…)

So I’m not sure what crowd you are trying to score points with by calling such an attitude “reprehensible”.

As for an aerosol in the upper atmosphere blocking sunlight and thus greenhouse effect heating, I am not sure what you are ranting about. Sulfur dioxide injections are a cheap gas and one you could say has a negative global warming potential. I stand by my statement as it makes perfect sense to any reasonable adult as written.

That sounds like it will do the trick. Too bad I’m busy preparing for my FAANG interviews.

Correct.

Well, just because yours was ineffectual, doesn’t mean they all are.

Jesus fucking Christ. What a fucking asshole.

I try.