Thank you, Manda JO. He directed that gem at me. I started to respond in a similar vein as you did (though perhaps not as
well) but decided a) he’s not going to recognize his own ignorance and b) he’s especially unlikely to change it if a woman is making the argument:
I completely agree with you. Every year for the last fourteen years, I’ve had a few students who have various learning disabilites (my sister-in-law, an actual special education teacher, has been known to use the expression “learning condition”) and, owing to the nature of the schools where I have worked and now work, there is absolutely no way those students will be placed in a special-education class. Teaching certain of those “non-mainstream” students while also teaching the “mainstream” students has been an incredible challenge. Being even a halfway decent spec-ed is quite an accomplishment alone; being a good spec-ed teacher is downright heroic.
I was particularly proud of that turn of phrase. “…like a man x3”. Point stands. If you want me to"recognize ignorance" you need to make an argument. But you can’t.
Because you would somehow have to make a reasoned argument as to the inherent value of educating the mentally disabled (I mean people flat out broken, not just a little glitchy) and also show me how it takes high intelligence to accomplish.
Pretty uphill battle. Looks unwinnable.
Hah! I left out a key word. The correct rendition of this sentence is:
I’m going to reverse the chronological order of the quotes to deal with the simpler one first.
SamuelA, you really are a fucking moron with absolutely zero understanding of anything related to climate, or anything else, as far as I can tell. An “aerosol” and a “gas” are two different things, and you were claiming some magic gas (a “thin layer” of it, no less) as a magic solution to this problem. SO2 in itself, like any gas, including GHGs, can only absorb and re-emit radiation in different parts of the spectrum, a fact that you still fail to understand, because you don’t understand anything about the stuff you’re pontificating about, as usual.
But SO2 is able to combine with atmospheric water vapor to form particulates of H2S04 – sulphuric acid droplets. Which leads to a whole entirely different scenario, and not a pleasant one. This is specifically the albedo factor I was referring to, and these particulates do in fact increase albedo because now you have actual reflective particles of liquid (not a “magic gas”) in the atmosphere, and which also has all the negative impacts I previously mentioned. It’s not a magic gas that creates the albedo effect, it’s the shit that it creates in the atmosphere, in this case, the impact of sulphuric acid raining down on us. I’ve personally witnessed vast expanses of pristeen lakes in some of the most beautiful parts of northern Canada that should have been thriving with life, that were completely dead. Vast beautiful lakes completely devoid of life. Buildings, streets, bridges, and other infrastructures were crumbling under the assault of acid rain. Only in recent years with the elimination of this polluting scourge have fish and wildlife started to return. The elimination of acid rain was the most successful environmental program in the history of the EPA. It was, in fact, the most successful environmental program ever achieved in history.
So for once we actually got together as a civilization and fixed a major problem, and your brilliant “solution” is to intentionally bring it all back again! Bring back acid rain in greater quantities than ever. And if we ever decide to stop it, say because all our lakes and rivers and forests are dying again, then the earth’s temperature would rebound to an extent that it would kill us all.
You truly are a fucking ignorant moron.
I’ll add to the above quote that there was also a question (post #977), “Do you think SpEd is inferior teachers teaching inferior kids?”, to which SamuelA responded, “Correct”.
Listen to me carefully, SamuelA, because I’m not joking or just trying to be insulting. Your utter lack of empathy is truly pathological, as are the suggestions of racism and sociopathy that you’ve also demonstrated. You should constructively interpret the feedback in this thread as an attempt to be helpful, not as a frivolous put-down. I suspect – though I don’t know for sure – that you have high-functioning autism, and you certainly exhibit significant symptoms of it. People with this condition have been very successful in many fields, but they have to face it and deal with it properly. This is not going to turn out well for you in the real world that we all have to live in if you continue on in this way. I sincerely do not mean that as an insult.
You have the potential to be a contributing member of society but you need professional help to deal with your issues. Your complete absence of empathy is a serious red-flag indicator that goes far beyond just arrogance and simple immaturity. I don’t personally have the patience to repeat this multiple times. If you continue to engage here, expect the consequences to continue to be the same. You’re not going to get any special treatment from me or, from the looks of it, from anyone else here, because it’s not the purpose of this board to provide therapy.
Try? Hell, Sammy, it’s the only thing you’re good at. Really, give yourself full credit. We do.
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But SO2 is able to combine with atmospheric water vapor to form particulates of H2S04 – sulphuric acid droplets. Which leads to a whole entirely different scenario, and not a pleasant one. This is specifically the albedo factor I was referring to, and these particulates do in fact increase albedo because now you have actual reflective particles of liquid (not a “magic gas”) in the atmosphere, and which also has all the negative impacts I previously mentioned.
not as a frivolous put-down. I suspect – though I don’t know for sure – that you have high-functioning autism, and you certainly exhibit significant symptoms of it. People with this condition have been very successful in many fields, but they have to face it and deal with it properly. This is not going to turn out well for you in the real world that we all have to live in if you continue on in this way. I sincerely do not mean that as an insult.
You have the potential to be a contributing member of society but you need professional help to deal with your issues.
Gee thanks. Says the guy who wastes tons of time frivolously putting me down. I am doing pretty good right now and am about to interview for a 6 figure job at a FAANG firm tomorrow. Google for the acronym. (this is the real reason I have high credit card debts - I expect a large pay increase within a year if not this week)
Also, “professionals” are unqualified to “help”. Frankly getting regular sex has done more for my mental well being in the last year than any shrink.
First of all, sulfur dioxide isn’t the only option. Other gasses might do the trick with less bad side effects. Second, chemotherapy is better than death, right?
I mean it’s definitely worth considering. Also it can be done unilaterally - any country unhappy with the temperature can inject the sulfur dioxide. While if countries pinkie swear to reduce CO2 emissions, and do it, this raises the price of energy within their borders, making manufacturing move to countries where it is cheaper. Like, uh, right now.
That argument cannot convincingly be made… to you. Because you lack something that most of the rest of us have, something that makes us fully human. You literally cannot understand the argument. For different reasons there are other arguments you have clear trouble tracking, considering and understanding. I used to feel sorry for you. Your life cannot be an easy one, both from what we can see of you, and how what and how you are must affect others around you. But it is finally completely clear to me that feeling sorry for you is like feeling sorry for a fire-hydrant for being pissed on by a dog: it is misplaced as the fire-hydrant isn’t a person.
I was a Special Ed student. I literally rode the short bus. I wound up doing OK. I don’t think my life has been anything to brag about, but I graduated from high school and a good university with honors, spent two years in a highly selective PhD program (Political Science at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill), served in the U.S. Army Reserves, including two deployments to the Gulf, and achieved the rank of Staff Sergeant and the position of Platoon Sergeant before being honorably discharged, and now own my own home, am gainfully employed, pay taxes, and so forth. Granted, my job isn’t as glamorous or highly paid as a “six figure job at a FAANG firm”, but it’s honest work, productive work that I think contributes to society, and it’s also a job I actually currently have, not one I’m going to “interview for tomorrow”.
SamuelA, you have expressed a lot of opinions that I think merely reflect ignorance. The fact that you think that calling someone a Special Ed teacher is an insult is just stupid. But the beliefs you’ve espoused about the “worth” of human beings who have cognitive and behavioral issues…I am not “trying to score points” with any “crowd” when I tell you this. You are a truly loathsome human being.
Oh, and running coach, JohnT, when you apparently tried to turn SamuelA’s insults against him by implying he was himself a Special Ed student,
Frankly, that’s also fairly loathsome. Calling a homophobe a fag isn’t hitting a bigot where it hurts, it’s just perpetuating bigotry. Same thing with responding to someone who expresses loathsome ideas about Special Ed students by saying they were in Special Ed.
Yep, you nailed it. I used to have at least a modicum of sympathy for Sammy, thinking of him as just an immature troubled kid with a regrettable tendency to come across as an ignorant blowhard. No longer. I see now that he’s an irredeemable goddam sociopath pretty much by his own admission. It should be no surprise that he’s also revealed himself to be a shameless liar as this is just another facet of the same pathology. It probably doesn’t bother him in the least that he’s almost universally despised on this board – it goes hand-in-hand with the delusion of superiority which is also part of the pathology.
Well done, and well said. Keep in mind, though, with regard to SamuelA, that you can’t believe anything he says, because as noted above, lying is a recognized part of his pathology, and he’s already done it several times just in the recent discussion. In fact persistent lying is one of the recognized traits of antisocial personality disorder in the DSM-5.
It took some of us a while to reach the same conclusion.
Or, to use his terms, he is “flat out broken, not just a little glitchy.”
Oh no! Ignorant, dishonest assholes call me a liar! People who eventually concede or parrot everything I argue claim I am wrong! What will happen to my self esteem, oh no!
I am despised by random strangers on the internet! Good thing the people who actually know me like me!
I will have you know I don’t hate you. I find most of the posters in this thread merely tiresome and I generally regret peeking their ignored messages. Wolfpup has been a source of some amusement until he simply has stopped being coherent, simply writing the most hateful thing he can think of even when it doesn’t make any sense.
I love threads like this. They always tell me who is next to be added to my Ignore list, and Sammy just made the cut.
Kerplop
You inhabit a different reality.
Might, yes. But it’s a big might.
If indicated for the specific cancer after extensive controlled research and ordered by an experienced oncologist, yes. But you’re the “Natural news” freak recommending apricot kernels, because it seems like if one poison works another should work as well.
“Seems” to ridiculously shallow analysis.
FTR, the analogy with “Natural News” is quite accurate. When serious science has looked at the issue of atmospheric albedo management (“global dimming”), it has invariably concluded that even as a “last-ditch” emergency measure it is poorly understood and very highly fraught with major risks including the real possibility of the attempted cure being much worse than the disease, while potentially not in fact alleviating many (or any) of the principal problems. By “serious science” I mean, among others, the panel of international experts on the IPCC Working Group 3 who most recently produced the AR5 WG3 report in 2014 on mitigation of climate change, and the US National Academy of Sciences report on potential climate interventions published in 2015. The latter largely dealt with CO2 sequestration with some consideration of techniques like stratospheric aerosol injection and marine cloud brightening as a means of atmospheric albedo management.
In contrast, advocacy of such risky and unproven approaches has generally come from crackpots on the fringes of science or outside of it altogether, like the pair of lunatics who wrote “SuperFreakonomics”, about which respected reviewers had this to say about the chapter on global warming:
In the book’s fifth chapter, the author proposes that the climate system can be intentionally regulated by construction of a stratoshield.
The chapter has been criticized by economists and climate science experts who say it contains numerous misleading statements and discredited arguments. Among the critics are Paul Krugman, Brad DeLong, Raymond Pierrehumbert, The Guardian, Bloomberg News, and The Economist. Elizabeth Kolbert, a science writer for The New Yorker who has written extensively on global warming, contends that “just about everything they [Levitt and Dubner] have to say on the topic is, factually speaking, wrong.”
So one need hardly guess who our resident genius SamuelA sides with, reflecting once again his uninformed and superficially tenuous grasp of a subject that he nevertheless chooses to pontificate about despite having practically no understanding of it. His conclusion seems to be based on his proven technique of sitting on his couch and thinking about it for five minutes.
Thirty seconds, tops.
I am still trying to wrap my head around the notion that covering the earth with sulphur dioxide to fix global climate change is something that sounds sensible to any reasonable person. Or that it can be done by any country that doesn’t like the temperature, unilaterally. I’m guessing that Canada or China or Russia might take it amiss if we start sending acid rain their way.
Shaving your head with a cheese grater is better than death, too, but I would like some indication that it will work before I start making Parmesan out of my scalp.
Regards,
Shodan
I’d been away for a little while on travel, and hadn’t caught up on things. I saw one thing that disturbs me about him. Relating to this exchange and his related mini-meltdown, I want to completely disassociate myself with anything he holds, considers, thinks, or otherwise espouses.
That’s pretty bold statement from someone in neither industry.
At no point in your whataboutism was I arguing with a position of “national nanotechnology initiatives.” I was demonstrating your words in one link after a ten second search. I could care less about “nanotechnology inititatives,” or any of your half-witted ideas, or self-aggrandizing bloat-posts. I noted your “ragheads” reference. Your racism really classes this discussion up. I don’t know you, other than the words on the screen. Your words, and some of your opinions, are filthy, vulgar, and stupid. Your words reflect you. I don’t think a filthy, vulgar, stupid person is worthy of attention, let alone hiring.
However, I will not have you put your racist words into my mouth. If you were intending to imply that I have ever held an opinion of that sort, then make your apology and move on.
Tripler
Your homework: make an apology to this thread.
By ragheads I was referring to members of the insurgency in Iraq/Afghanistan and ISIS. Glad to see you are standing up for the worst of the worst. This is generally what military members, which you are allegedly a former member of, mean. They don’t generally mean muslims.
As for rifraff, anyone un-credible falls there.
I apologize for implying you would take a side against enemies of the United States and random homeless bums when seeking advice.