Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread

Military procurement reform as well. Until he ran for president he really was a reformer.

He was a reformer when he ran for President too. The messaging was at fault. A guy who had never been a reformer but was instead a very ordinary politician with an ordinary record, ran circles around McCain in terms of messaging.

McCain was also standing firm against torture, against tax cuts that weren’t paid for, and against the GOP’s big spending ways under Bush/Delay/Hastert/Lott.

Obama’s differences with party orthodoxy on the other hand had been pretty much, well, nothing. Down the line party man.

He sure was going to reform the office of the Vice President!!

Girls on leashes wouldn’t work. As suggested, puppets maybe. He opened the door by their prominent usage in the ads, delivering lines. Don’t want your girls targeted, don’t paint bullseyes on them.

There is a long history of portraying black people as monkeys, so any political ad aimed at a black Presidential candidate and using monkeys would be seen as racist.

There is not a history of protraying white people as monkeys in a racist manner, so portraying white Presidential candidates as monkeys doesn’t carry the same racist tone.

But you knew this already.

It is reprehensible to shoot at children, even if their parents dress them as targets. Try to be better than your enemy.

[Cruz Taps Evangelicals, Tea Partiers To Fuel Campaign:

](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOP_2016_CRUZ_ORGANIZATION_TXOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-28-12-44-01)If every one of those people backed Cruz, how much of a gain towards Trump would that be?

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Could it be that the cartoon was aiming at Cruz as the organ-grinder?

Overturned almost entirely by SCOTUS (sadly). Though I guess the argument wasn’t whether he was an effective reformer.

I am with Dr. Drake on this. The girls have no choice about being in Cruz’ ads. Leave them alone.

McCain’s biggest weakness, in my view, was his total unconcern about the Constitution. That’s one of the problems with a lot of people who see reform as a moral crusade: rule of law becomes less important than “doing the right thing”. The constitutional issues with McCain-Feingold were not only raised very early on and completely ignored by McCain, but the first court ruling on BCRA that let it stand made it clear that the justices thought there were serious issues as well, but due to the problems BCRA was trying to fix, were willing to see how it would be applied in practice.

Legislation that is that constitutionally infirm should never be championed by anyone. And that’s Ted Cruz’s one good quality: he’s very serious about the Constitution and rule of law. I don’t think he’d make a good President, but a Supreme Court justice or Attorney General would be a great place for him to end up.

He advocated for ignoring the SCOTUS decision on same-sex marriage.
Disqualified.

Hey, look! Another thing you’re wrong about!

Why in the world would you think that “monkeys were off limits for portrayal of politicians now”? :dubious:

It wasn’t “constitutionally infirm.” In fact, until Citizens United was actually decided the smart money was on the law being upheld.

Hello, All
I hope you and yours are doing well and having happy holidays.
I’m new here.
Didn’t see a place to do an introductory post, so this will have to suffice unless Mods decree otherwise.

I’ve read this thread with interest.
Seems to be a bit one sided.
I think that it would be beneficial for you to understand the views of a conservative libertarian, as we would appear to make up a sizable chunk of Senator Cruz’s supporters.
Please let me know if you would like more.
If not, take care.

All the best, regardless

We’re all out of gilt-edged invitations so whenever you’re ready.

If you are a Cruz supporter, and want to explain why you support him, then this thread is a perfectly fine place to do so. I’d be interested to hear what you have to say.

Wouldn’t get ten minutes into it before another “libertarian” comes along and explains that he’s got it all wrong.

I’m all for libertarians. Cruz, however, is creepy and a fucking asshole. I long for a politician who can simply say why his or her ideas have advantages over their opponent’s. But we get people like Cruz saying stupid things like:

Libertarians are like buses around here- miss one and another comes along in five minutes.

Cruz isn’t a libertarian by any reasonable definition, since he is all for government intervention so long as it doesn’t conflict with his personal views. He would be better described as an isolationist conservative.

Any way we can isolate him from the rest of us?