Teen Suburban Life in the 70s?

Okay, I need some hard core help and searching. I am in need of some realistic and acurate discriptions of what life was like for a teenager in 70s suburbia. I don’t want to know what was happening in the world (I can look that up in any history book). I want to know what was happening in their world.

So far the best referances I’ve read are The Virgin Suicides and Middlesex by Jeffery Eugenides, and the few memories I have of the old TV show The Wonder Years.

Other than a fairly undetailed diary I found on the net of a girl in the 70s, I’m coming up dry in this area. I need as much info and anecdotes I can possibly get. If anyone can help, please do so. Hell, you’re more than welcome to post your own experiances, thoughts, and feelings in the thread.

Since you’re looking for personal experiences more than hard facts, I’ll move this thread to IMHO.

bibliophage
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What do you want to know? I was born in '61 and graduated high school in '79. I lived in a rural Michigan town until 1976, then moved to a Minneapolis neighborhood. I’m the youngest of 5 kids - one brother and three sisters, all of us within six years of each other. I went to Catholic school until HS. My parents were married until my father died 4 years ago. I never heard my parents disagree, let alone argue. My father was a construction executive. My mother was a school teacher until all of us kids came along. Later she had an antique shop. My parents were traditional, but didn’t have any problem with the girls helping my father around the house or my brother helping in the kitchen. We were expected to be well-spoken and do well in school.

I don’t remember Kennedy being killed ('64) but I remember Vietnam being on TV. I remember having only three channels. I remember my mother keeping me out of school for a week because one of the TV stations was showing Margaret O’Brien (old 1940’s child star) movies on TV. No VCRs and no way to watch movies except on TV or at the theatre. I spent my childhood reading and riding bikes. Pretty much kids were outdoors from the time school let out until it got dark. We didn’t worry about someone snatching us. We didn’t require constant supervision. When I moved to Minneapolis I had my first taste of a large public school. I never tried any sort of drugs or alcohol, although I knew kids that did. I didn’t learn to drive until after I left HS.

No computers - if you wanted to research something you went to the library and used card catalogues and books. Most of your friends lived in the same town - no e-mail or AIM and except for penpals, you didn’t have contact with people who lived far away.

Basically, as a child of the '70’s, I was expected to be respectful, responsible and independant. I was raised to think there was nothing I couldn’t do, no matter my gender. I learned valuable life lessons like never stomp on a nest of ground-nesting wasps while wearing bell-bottoms.

If you have any specific questions I’ll try to answer them.

StG

I think the Wonder Years started in 1967 but I’m not sure how many seasons it lasted. Are you looking for early 70s? Mid 70s, late 70s?

I think the Wonder Years started in 1967 but I’m not sure how many seasons it lasted. Are you looking for early 70s? Mid 70s, late 70s?

There’s the cult film “Over the Edge,” which is a representation of teen life in Aurora, Colorado in the late 1970s.

There’s also the move “Dazed and Confused,” which to my recollection is fairly accurate.

I like to compare my teens to those on “That 70’s show”. I was born in 1960, so like them I was 17 in 1977. The show takes place in “Point Place” Wisconsin. Many people think that is a fictional name for Stevens Point, Wisconsin. I disagree because they talk about driving an hour to Racine to go to a disco. Stevens Point is over 3 hours away from Racine. I think “Point Place” is a mid-sized city north of Milwaukee. A city like, oh…West Bend (yes that’s where I grew up:D )

You’ll hear it a zillion times, so once more won’t hurt you: No computers, no video games except PONG:rolleyes: . No cable tv. VCR’s were around but they were $1200, which is like $3590 now days. Not having any of this stuff is what lead us to sit in our basement and smoke pot!:stuck_out_tongue: Actually, in a small Wisconsin city dope could be incredably hard to get in the 70’s.

A typical summer day consisted of going to the pool, and working a part-time job. Not much different than kids today. By 1979 the economy was so shitty that alot of us didn’t have jobs (nor did a lot of our parents). The drinking age was 18, and there weren’t as many “sin” taxes on alcohol as there are now. A case (24 bottles) of Red/White/Blue, Wisconsin Club, or Kingsburry went for $1.77 + deposit.
I remember when the Vietnam War ended. They blew the sirens in our town. I never worried about being drafted. By the time I was old enough the draft was over.

We had PONG on our black and white TV (and marvelled at the technology), and I wore a leisure suit to teen dances with those lovely 70’s earth tone brown suede shoes. Everything was earth tones. We used to buy wine before going to the teen dances. Nobody cared much about drinking ages. Very few of us had cars. Any teenager who did have a car obviously came from a “rich” family (unlike today where just about every teen gets one for their 16th birthday). Many families only had 1 car.

Hari krishnas would dance through downtown daily, banging on their tamborines and chanting. We only ever saw them when we went downtown. They were never out in the burbs where we lived. Occasionally you’d see a newspaper clip of someone streaking, and usually someone in the neighborhood had actually seen the streaker (or at least claimed they did).

I went everywhere on my bicycle. I worked in my uncle’s hot dog restaurant. We had two Burger Chef’s and no McDonald’s. School papers were written on a typewriter, not a computer, and I had to borrow a neighbor’s typewriter and was fortunate that they had one. If they didn’t I would have had to take the bus downtown to the library and use one of the public typewriters there, which were in small typing rooms in the basement.

There were always rumours of the beatles getting back together, until John Lennon was shot.

We went shopping downtown. There were no “malls” in the area. Sears had the ugliest puke green walls you can imagine.

Interstate 70 ended about a mile from my house. It wasn’t completed until the end of the 1970’s. 2 lane roads were used a lot more by trucks and such. Our neighborhood ended at Rt 40, so these trucks were constantly going by our neighborhood. There used to be train tracks across the road, which were ripped up in the 90’s and converted into walking paths. We used to walk the tracks to school. It was reasonably safe because the terrain was mountainous and the track curved, so the trains were never going more than about 15 or 20 mph there. Sometimes they would go slow enough that you could grab a hold of one of the coal cars and ride the train to school. On the way home from school we would stop by a store that sold paint and hardware, and we would buy a bottle of coke, which we would always toss off of the train trestle later on our walk home (the bottle would be empty by then). The larger bottles (not the ones we bought from the paint store) could be taken back to the grocery store for a refund.

Beer cans were made of a much heavier and stronger metal than today. Being able to crush one with your hand meant you were strong. Towards the end of the 70’s they started to be made out of cheaper thinner metal, but teens still liked to crush them to show off their manliness.

The grocery store on the corner got automated doors in the late 70’s. It was the first grocery store in our area to get automatic doors. Every time the sun hit them the doors would open. It took them about a month to get them working right (must have been infra-red sensors).

We had jiffy pop popcorn, in the aluminum foil pan that the top got bigger and bigger as you heated it over a stove top.

Schools went through this experimental phase. They decided it was better to learn things in “pods” which were big open rooms, divided into 3 or 4 classrooms but had no divider or anything between them. Kids in one class were always distracted by the other classes, and after a year or two they put up dividers to split them back into single rooms again.

We had a lot less technology (no microwave, no computer, just a black and white tv), so we didn’t sit around and play game boys and segas and such. But otherwise life was pretty much the same as for a teenager today. We went to school, we had crushes on girls, we hung out and did stupid things…

I think the Wonder Years started in 1967 but I’m not sure how many seasons it lasted. Are you looking for early 70s? Mid 70s, late 70s?

the 70’s sucked, that’s why American hardcore (punk rock) germinated. The good thing (well not really)was back then drinking and driving was socially acceptable, grass had just been made a misdemeaner in California, pin ball was great, herpes much less aids was not on anyone’s radar screen and the 60’s free love influence was still around (although that applied less in high school and more in your twenties) and um, not really anything else.

If you were in suburbia without a car you were fucked. Even with a car, it was damn boring.

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I thought I only hit submit once and I was just about to hit it again but I decided to preview to see if it went through. Sorry about that.

Ok I was born in 1962 and grew up in a small town/ suburb in the northern US. We didn’t have a mall and we had only one movie theater, but it was close enough to a big city to be suburban.

I’m guessing the clique thing was always around.
There were two major cliques at school: “the jocks” and “the rocks”; there were many smaller social groupings and people who didn’t fit into any one clique exclusively. I’ve never heard of any other community that had a clique called “rocks”.

The jocks were usually from the more well off families, played sports, and wore the right sneakers, while the rocks were usually from the poorer ones, smoked cigarettes, and wore denim jackets. I was the intellectual type and sort of a rock; I didn’t smoke cigarettes, but I hung out with people who did, and I smoked pot in 8th and 9th grade, which was young then. But I quit when I was about 15. The very coolest people in our crowd were the ones who had “partied” while they were still in middle school, and I retained my “cool” status.

There was a lot of beer drinking. Alcohol abuse was a major problem. The drinking age was 18, so a lot of kids could get a senior to buy for them. Or they could pass for over-18 without an ID.

If you had sex before you were like 16, and you weren’t in a really long-term relationship, you were a slut and that was a bad thing then.

There was the whole disco thing. It wasn’t cool to like disco after about 1977 unless you were some kind of goody twoshoes. “Disco sucks” was a popular thing to say among the rocks. “Stairway to Heaven” was the best song ever.

It was very unusual to have divorced parents. If your parents got divorced you probably couldn’t be a real jock anymore, because the pseudo-Brady-Bunch image was damaged. Mommy suddenly lets Janie wear denim because Mommy doesn’t give a fuck what Janie does because Mommy is smashed on Vodka and valium since Daddy took off with Phyllis. So around 11th grade there were these former “stupid jocks” who would try to get it with the cool crowd by taking up smoking and abandoning their dozens of alligator laden garments. It was so annoying to anyone who was truly cool like me.

Another 70s teenager chiming in. There was a pretty big schizm between the polyester leisure suit wearing set and the concert shirt blue jeans wearing set. Kids either had longish hair (a holdover from the sixties) or hair blowdryed and brushed back in “wings”, something created by Farrah Fawcett Majors (maybe?). Most guys had a FFM poster in their bedroom somewhere. Everyone teenage guy was sure he was the only one not getting laid.

Hanging at the mall was just starting to become a participation sport. On Friday nights we’d go watch the football game, usually, and then get pizzas afterwards. There were occasional beer busts, but not an every day thing. We made punch with Hawaiian Punch and grain alcohol and called it “Guyana Punch” after the Jonestown massacre. Their was a deep malaise over the country (just ask Jimmy Carter) and everyone had to go to their dictionary and find out what “malaise” meant after he said that.

Kids were leery about careers in the military because of the last war in Vietnam. Animal House was a big film influence that would resurrect the Frat House on American campuses.

I was a teenager in Atlanta and in the Tampa area, so there were some things that are probably unique to those areas, like cruising the beach or drunken drives up to Stone Mountain.

Mariemarie,

That sort of social division has been around since at least the 1950’s. (And it may have been around a lot longer, but I have no personal knowledge of what it was like any earlier.) I think the terms “jocks” and “rocks” goes back aways too, but I’m not sure.

To expand on that; we would do whatever drug was available, that the local dealer would bring in. Maybe in the city you could choose what drugs to do, but in a small town, if somebody brought in Yucatan Blue or hits of purple microdot, that’s what everybody did. Sure, you could stay straight, but "straight"culture recognized only a handful of kids who made the football team or the cheerleading squad. The rest of us could go to hell.

Like all times, the '70’s were heavily influenced by what had passed before. Those of us who came of age in it received the VERY pervasive message from those who’d come of age in the '60’s of “You guys just missed it.” The real party had ended, what was left for us would only be the dregs.

(This is one of the reasons why a lot of us late-era baby boomers (1960-65) wonder why we’re grouped in with the 1945-59 generation)

Added to this “You just missed it” message was the ususal impression you get growing up in a small town or out in the suburbs, that life is happening somewhere else, and that you’re too far removed. And that high school is just a holding pen to keep you rotten kids off the streets, not preparing you to participate in an exiting and meaningful world.

OK, I have to take issue with you here. I was born in 66, and while I was officially a teen in the 70s, I was really a teen in the 80s, but in the 70s I know damn well your account is full of innacuracies.

When PONG came out, EVERYONE had color tvs, and had them for many years. I played pong on a color tv, and do not even remember black and white tvs.

I had a car at 16, as did those older than me. Hell, people in the 50s had cars at 16.

My family and both my parents’ familes had MULTIPLE cars. What is this “only 1 car” thing?

I and just about everyone else in the 70s had many McDonalds. And Burger Kings and Wendies and Carld’s Jr. They were on every streetcorner, just like today.

Hari Krishna’s danced through downtown sf and berkeley. big deal.

There were malls from my earliest memories, dating back from the late 60s. Malls were more rampant in the 70s than they are today, I’d hazard a guess. Where were you living where there were no malls in the 70s? Sheesh.

Microwaves certainly existed in the 70s. I remember microwaves in my house no later than 1975.

While I’m doubting that you are lying about your b/w tv no microwave no-mall 1-car lifestyle in the 70s, I am sure that it was completely atypical. Yet you had PONG. I’m not sure what to make of this.

zuma - Different people from different areas had different things.

I was born in '81 and all we had was a 13" black and white tv. We didn’t have a VCR or a Microwave either (though I was still pretty young when we got them.)

zuma, believe it or not, there was no mall in the town where I grew up. You could go to a mall in a nearby town if you could drive or had any money to buy stuff, but if your family had only one car, no fucking way is your Mom or Dad going to let the stupid teenagers take the car they need to get to work on a joy trip to the mall across the county. There wasn’t a MacDonald’s in my town until around 1980. We didn’t have a color TV ever before I left home, but you are probably right that the majority of suburban homes had color TVs by the late 70s. Microwave ovens were unusual before the 80’s in my experience.

I graduated HS in '79 in suberban Washington, D.C., so I can comment on this. I came from a solidly middle class family and went to a school that was diverse racially and socially.

To chime in on the controversy above, I did not have a car nor did most students, but my neighbor did. My family had one car. We had a color TV, this was very common. No microwave. They were around, but were big and heavy and had warnings about keep-ing away if you had a “pacemaker” (imlanted device to maintain heart rythym). Malls were everywhere, but hanging out at them stopped being cool around 10th grade.

Every day after school a large group of us would meet at a park and play basketball for hours. No one stayed home and watched TV unless that weather was bad. TV had 4 or 5 channels, and after school programming was mostly for little kids. Again, no computers or cell phones. You’d make plans while in school and everyone would show up.

Cliques were common - jocks, stoners (heads), dramazoids. Geeks were a relatively new thing. They were called nerds. I remember going to a friends house and they were playing Dungeons and Dragons. It was bizzare, I’d never seen anytrhing like it. Some of those guys are Microsoft millionaires now.

Most HS students (I’d say 60-70%) graduated as virgins.

In summer, it was common to spend the entire day away from home except for dinner. Swimming, hanging out, going to parties at night - parents didn’t worry too much.

Smoking pot was very common, I recall most students, even the smartest, smoked at least occasionally. Alcohol was easy to get and keg parties at peoples houses were not uncommon. Drinking age was 18.

The biggest difference between then and now, as I see it, is the ammount of time spent at home. There was nothing cool about being at home, and we’d spend as little time there as possible. We loved our parents, but couldn’t wait to graduate and get out of the house. The thought of living at home after HS and especially college was unheard of. In my neighborhood today there are three kids, one is a college grad and the others are students at CU who live at home. I guy I know has his 26 year old daughter living with him. She is a teacher.

Bizzare.

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Drinking and driving was NOT socially acceptable. As for your opening sentence, see my opening sentence for a well thought out response.

There weren’t any video games, or personal computers, cable Tv was virtually non-existant, your Tv got at most 10 channels. Soda cost a hell of a lot less when bought out of a machine, kids could play unsupervised because there wasn’t all of this AssHattedness about perverts and child molesters.

There also wasn’t the AssHattedness about “this type of music sucks” that exists now.

There was no such thing as the “summer blockbuster season at the movies,” hell there wasn’t even anything like an “Event Movie.”

Clowns were not yet considered to be evil and plotting to kill us all in our sleep.

Designer jeans, the thong, body piercings and tatoos had thankfully yet to be thought of as fashion statements.

The Wonder Years was set in the mid-1960’s.