Or fired upon.
And I agree with those who wonder about Yosemite Sam’s “IT” credentials.
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I couldn’t have said it better myself. This guy is an asshole! My boss posted this on her FB wall with a “Heh heh…” comment above. I don’t find it funny whatsoever. Good god, what kid doesn’t vent about what their parent expects from them at times. Sure, there are better ways to do it than to post it in the “social network” but damn…what he did is wrong on so many levels.
I agree that it no longer sounds like he’s a jerk for accidentally violating her privacy. He still strikes me as a jerk for other reasons.
Here’s what he says in the video.
He’s clearly implying that he used some IT wizardry to get around her privacy settings. How much of the story, besides what he actually said during the video, should I have to know before making a reasonable judgment?
As much as you can. (Which is a bullshit answer I know. How is one to know that there is more info out there and that what one just read wasn’t the full story.) As you can see knowing more information can change your opinion abouth the thing. At first I was annoyed at Jordan for what I assumed was that he hacked into her facebook account. Definitley a jerkish move. Then I clicked on some other links and articles about the story and that’s when I ran across an article that mentioned how he found the FB post with a link to his FB page so I clicked on it and learned the dog pictures thing and it changed my opinion about the guy.
I admit I was being a bit of a grumpy-pants in my post but I get annoyed with the whole, “We are the Dope we are fighting ignorance excpet when we want to flip our shit about a certain RO topic and then facts be damned.” thing that I run into now and again.
I only quoted you and Morbo because the things I quoted came off like that to me. As is pretty much everything Der Trihs posted in this thread.
You have no idea how happy I am that he used a gun. If he didn’t I wouldn’t be here reading the posts of the “guns are scary and evil” crowd and laughing my ass off at how butthurt and panties bunched they seem to be from their posts. He used a gun on a piece of machinery so he’s going to murder his family? You guys crack me up.
You should really teach all these butthurt weenies a lesson by shooting your own computer! BLAM BLAM BLAM! Or maybe just piss on the power supply! C’mon, I dare ya!
You’d think a marine could group his shots better at 2 feet. Maybe he wanted to make sure he got the hard drive AND the processor.
So far he’s been visited by child services and also by the Sheriff who according to him gave him a verbal thumbs up. No laws broken in his area. His daughter has been offered a job at an ice cream shop. Don’t know if can squeeze a job in between chores but maybe her father freed up enough facebook time for her to earn enough money to buy a new computer.
Well, at least we agree it’s a bullshit answer. 
If it were a case of blindly believing a single hastily-written 3rd-hand account, I’d agree with you. In this case I took the guy at his word (sure, he didn’t explicitly make that claim, but natural language necessarily contains a certain amount of ambiguity).
Sure, he’s not a jerk because he didn’t do what he implied. But I think I’m fully justified in forming my opinion based on what he actually said.
For the record, I’m totally pro-gun (if you look hard enough, you can see me advocate for legalizing machine guns) and I am moderately worried about this guy. From the video evidence, it’s clear that he’s the kind of person who makes moderately dangerous decisions about when and where to discharge his firearms based upon spectacle and a completely overblown sense of self-importance.
I’m not worried he’ll murder his family, I’m worried he’ll shoot his neighbor’s dog for pissing in the flowerbed, or fail to check what’s behind his target when he says “oh yeah, well watch THIS” in his backyard.
I’m wondering what kind of work I can do for someone which will entail them becoming my (not-)cleaning lady in return.
Normally I’d actually side with the parent. In this case, I could tell in about 30 seconds that the guy was a shithead. Normal people don’t get shaking crying upset over reading a 15-year-old’s rant on Facebook. Her complaints may have been exaggerated, but possibly were not. Either way, if I were her father I would have at least thought about whether I was asking too much of my kid instead of having a knee-jerk reaction about how unfair her complaining about my being unfair was. Then again, I’m an adult.
I saw a link to this yesterday and only got about a minute in before deciding that the guy was mostly in the wrong, so I didn’t even know about the shooting section until now. That, my fellow board members, is so over the top that even I — a flaming personal rights advocate who feels people should be able to do damn near anything they want unless it hurts someone else — thought this idiot should have his guns taken away. Shooting the laptop by itself would have been way beyond what I would consider acceptable behavior by pretty much anyone. Shooting the laptop and recording it on video is public grandstanding, which makes it even more disturbing.
Do I think the girl is traumatized or abused? Not really. Do I think her dad is an asshole? Yep. Do I think he’s dangerous? Fuck yes. Not in the “he’ll snap and kill his entire family” kind of way, but in the “stupid, overly-emotional, impulsive” kind of way. He’s the kind of guy who might do something out of emotion that he’d immediately regret, but that wouldn’t fix whatever he broke.
I have no doubt the girl is going to get the fuck out of that household as soon as possible. He does strike me as a petty tyrant type, even if he does basically love his kid. He’ll probably be a tolerable person to be around if you don’t live with him, but I wouldn’t want to be living with him any longer than I had to.
Update: the daughter has only lived with him for six months. She’s his child by a previous marriage and prior to this was living with his ex-wife, so she can’t have had that long a history of discipline problems. Per this cite.
If I had just mopped the floor, and somebody tracked mud all over it I’d be unhappy too. I am also wondering what chores her brother or brothers may have. I don’t have a garden but I cut the grass with a lawnmower.
I had chores too, but most of the time my mother is happy for the extra help.
There’s got to be a better way to teach her, than by taking the gun to the laptop and posting it online.
Count me on the girl’s side, without question. I’d rather not get into it, but I know a man like her father, and seeing this sort of betrayal can really stick with you.
I’m happy to stipulate that she was being a total jerk. That she was lying in her complaints exactly as much as dad said. That dad should have taken her computer away.
He was still being a shitty parent.
Not because he’s likely to murder his daughter: that’s as repellently absurd as people who elsewhere have compared this incident to an honor killing. No: he was a shitty parent because he used public humiliation as a disciplinary tool. That’s bad parenting. And he made disciplinary decisions while he was shaking with rage (I really don’t get people who say he was calm in this video–it’s like they were watching something different from what I was watching, or else they think that if you’re not spitting froth from a red face while screaming at the top of your lungs, you’re calm). Good parents, when enraged, calm down before making discipline decisions. And they make those decisions in private.
He may well be a good parent in other cases. He just made two big parenting mistakes here.
Going to college at that age was a mistake that I probably didn’t recover from for years. I was not ready to go. If I could change any one thing in my life, it would be to go to college at the same age everyone else did–and I’d even pick that over not marrying my deeply disturbed now-ex-wife. I’m never going to brag about going to college at 15 because I’m not in the least proud of it.
I would like anyone who previously claimed that there’s “no evidence” that the dad is reveling in the attention to read this cite and then still say that with a straight face.
They always deny they’re going to run for President right before they announce. I’m sensing an even more exciting Republican primary than any of us had imagined!
Just imagine if he wins, watching him in the debates against Obama, shooting holes in every talking point.
Glad to see so many people agreeing that this guy is an asshat. In my circle, there’s a ton of applause for his actions.
Yeah, it’s a case of nobody being ‘in the right’, but this dude is a dad. His daughter may be immature and whiny, but he’s an adult who knows better than to belittle and grandstand instead of having a conversation about expectations and consequences.
And while the use of a gun may be amusing and visceral in his family, it does imply an undertone of violence and danger that I find incredibly off-putting.
Agreed. I may be a Castro-dwelling liberal but even the NRA pays mouth service to being responsible for what you do with a gun.