Tell me about Ashland, Oregon

I live in the SF Bay Area and my wife and I are seriously thinking about retiring and moving to Medford/Ashland Oregon in a few years. We go to the Shakespear Festival almost every year so I have a good idea what to expect… at least in Ashland.

Now before you tell me that you really don’t need any more Californians moving up to your precious town I would like to know what you like and don’t like about living there.

And what’s the weather really like? How hot are the summers, how cold are the winters? How much snow do you normally get a year?

Thank you in advance for you answers…

Damn! I knew we’d be sorry when they took down that sign at the border that said “Welcome to Oregon - now go home!”

Hey,
I moved from Ohio so the borders are still open. :cool:
The summers are pretty warm but it cools off really well in the evening - 50s for the most part. Oddly, there seems to be a drought all summer. Contrast this with the winters, which everyone says are supposed to be extremely rainy and 40-50 degrees for the highs. We’ve had an unusual winter according to everyone I’ve talked to, with cold snaps down into the 20s and not as much rain as expected. Since I’m from the midwest I haven’t noticed it getting too cold out although I’ve heard people complain. So far, we haven’t really needed to heat the house, if it tells you anything. Of course, I’m in Eugene, which I think is comparable to Ashland, but YMMV. Eugene is pretty damn cool so you might want to think about coming this way to see what it’s like. Lots of freaks. :slight_smile:

Here is one site with information about Medford. I live up the freeway about 100 miles and I can’t remember the last time I went to Medford, so I can’t really say much firsthand. It’s 2004 population was around 68,000.

As for the climate, this is from the site I linked:

Here is a site about Ashland. Ashlands two main claims to fame are the Shakespearian Festival which you are already familiar with and Lithia Park. Ashlands 2004 population was about 20,755.

I spent a few days there last year, teaching.

Paradise. I want to leave everything, and move there.

WOW. :slight_smile:

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a town with less diversity. Almost everybody is either 1) an upper middle-class, white college student dressed in the latest Gap fashions, or 2) a hippy. The property values are sky high and the downtown is self-conciously quaint and ominously utopian. I think they shoot people for spitting on the sidewalk. Needless to say, I got the hell out as quick as I could and vowed never to return.

The weather’s nice though. And the rolling hills of grass and scrub oak are kind of pretty, assuming they aren’t made of plastic.

I caught a ton of crappie at Immigrant Lake.

Huh? Did Eugene not get the insane rain that Portland and Salem got in January? I don’t think there was more than one or two completely dry from mid-December to early February.

And, no, it doesn’t get very cold here. I’m from Tennessee and our winters there aren’t anything special but still gets colder than the ones here.

What June said. My cousin and his wife moved to Medford a few years ago and want to move to Ashland, despite its pretensions, but find it cost-prohibitive. Ashland is pretentiously funky and they like that kinda’ life.

I’ve visited both places and would choose Ashland in a heatbeat.

It’s “Emigrant” lake. People around here flip out over that. And yes, the crappie there are great. Good bass, too, if you know the right spots (which I don’t, but still…)

I live in Ashland, actually. It’s a very nice little town, although the best way I’ve heard it described is “an island of six square miles in the sea of reality”. This is a heavily liberal town; between OSF, because theatre people are really liberal, Southern Oregon University, because college students are liberal, and the large hippie population, who I don’t need to tell you are liberal. That’s offset by relatively wealthy, elderly Californians who retire here. A few people in town are annoyed by the Californians who move here in droves, but it’s not like you’ll be ostracized for it, just ridiculed briefly and then forgotten, because almost no one here was born here, and we’re all immigrants at some level. I’ve lived here only seven years myself.

The weather is beautiful and dry as a bone during the summer; in the last few years the summer temperature hovers between 80 and 100 in the summer, which isn’t that bad with effectively 0 humidity. Most summers, we get maybe three rain showers total between from June through September. Fall is similarly clear but much cooler. Winter is rainy, mildly cold, and grey and overcast for months. Spring is warmer and rainier.

You’re familiar with OSF, but there’s even more in the way of theatre in town- the Oregon Caberet, right down the street from OSF, does wonderful little musical comedies, usually with a cast of six or fewer. SOU has the best theatre department in Oregon, and even the local high school has first-class theatre facility, with top-level acting classes taught by OSF actors, and most directors, choreographers, lighting, set, and costume designers from the Festival.

Lithia Park is, as mentioned, beautiful, as long as you don’t mind the hippies smoking and the local goth crowd sword fighting in a couple of the areas. They’re all friendly, but some tourists get offended just that these people exist. Ashland had a bit of a scandal a couple years back, when the city finally passed a ban of nudity in public and streakers protested everywhere. It was hilarious, in my mind, but a small minority of the town (on both sides of the issue) screamed for months on end about it.

On the downside, real estate is insanely expensive- very few houses within city limits sell for less than $400,000, it seems, and it’s not uncommon for houses to sell for well over $1,000,000. You might be able to get a decent place for a reasonable price in Pheonix or Talent, which are about five minutes drive outside city limits. Phantom Dennis is correct that diversity is minimal, although I’d disagree with the “college student” part of his statement. It’s true, though, that nearly everyone is white and upper middle class, though this is one place where you find few extreme right-wing Christians. Racial and cultural diversity is welcomed, it just can’t afford to live here.

Uh, $400,000 for someone from Cupertino is low.

Well, then that may not be a downside. Most people in this country, though, would consider that pretty high.

It is high, it’s just not an obstacle.

So Appleciders is it safe to say that if you don’t actually live in the city of Ashland that property prices drop the further away you get? What about Medford?

I live in Salem, but my job is computing housing prices for all of Oregon. A good rule of thumb in most of the state is that a “standard” property (3/2, 1400 sq.ft.) will sell for 10-20% over the assessed value. In Medford, it’s about 50% over. In Ashland, it’s 300% over. That’s right, you can expect to pay 4 times the assessed value. You’re talking in the neighborhood of 350 bucks per square foot of housing, and it goes up from their.

Yes, housing in Medford isn’t bad at all, and I would bet that housing costs go down pretty steeply as you move outwards from town, though I’ve never actually looked. Medford doesn’t feel like Ashland in the slightest, so in my mind, it negates the advantage. My advice is to look at Pheonix and Talent, both small towns less than five miles from Ashland. Property may still be high, but you’ll still get the Ashland feel, and IMO property in Talent is a good investment- it’ll wind up at Ashland prices, but it isn’t there yet. Your other option may be to go farther east out of Ashland, along Highway 66- that’s where I live, and even just a few miles out property prices are somewhat lower, though still sky-high compared to Medford. However, most houses out that far come with some land, and that may negate your savings.

Someone mentioned Emigrant Lake at one point. How far is that from Ashland? Do any people live year-round on or near the lake? Are there any powerboat restrictions?