Tell Me About Being A Stay-at-Home Parent

And preferably figure it out before you take a high needs kid into the house.

Relentless is a good word. Seriously relentless. And I’ve always worked. I know I’m one that can’t stay home with kids. And no dissin’ people that do - its a HARD JOB.

My kids are older now and pretty independent. But at the end of the weekend after the noise, and the “Moms!” and the “can you please flush the toilet!!!” and…I’m so eager to go back to work. And it was so much worse when they were needy. And I have pretty good kids (well, the flushing the toilet thing).

I wish you best luck in the future, you sound like you will be a fine parent… I worked from age 15 to age 37, when I got married and exactly one year later got pregnant. My job had gotten super-stressful, they were trying to get rid of people and so the jobs of the people who were let go were piled onto the jobs of the people who stayed there. So, I gave up work and became a SAHM, always planning to go back to work even part time (but it didn’t work out as I would have had to go back to school, and nice little part time jobs didn’t grow from trees!)…My husband had/has a good job, so we really didn’t need two incomes. I’m very very cheap and not materialistic, and had/have everything I could possibly want, within reason…I don’t like living out here in the suburbs, luckily there were a few kids in the neighborhood to play with my little singleton. Sleepovers, birthday parties, movies, plays,trips to the park, the ice cream stand - and gymnastics, dance lessons and recitals, Girl Scouts, religious ed classes - the early years were quite busy, and looking back, a LOT of fun for the whole family. We went on modest vacations around NY state and spent time on a relative’s farm…I am a loner by nature, could always amuse myself, and really liked being a SAHM - I had a couple of mom-friends to socialize with on occasion, but I enjoyed having the house to myself during the school day. Loved cooking and baking, didn’t mind laundry and cleaning (once the coffee kicked in), liked grocery shopping and errands, keeping things organized, keeping the house running. I never exactly killed myself doing housework! Clean bathrooms and kitchen, trash taken out, clutter picked up every day didn’t take THAT long. I could read, go for a walk, go to the gym, read, work on hobbies, or even take a nap, woo-hoo!..I did get a couple of “so what do you DO all day” inquiries from working women who assumed I must be some poor simple-minded creature incapable of holding down a ‘real’ job. Didn’t bother me none, THEIR kids were in expensive day care 12 hours a day and living on convenience food and McDonalds…I’ve done a ton of volunteer work in my copious spare time, helped out at my daughter’s school, been a Friend of the Library, taken care of many pets, done errands for sick and elderly relatives - kept pretty busy in a low key way…I missed working terribly for a couple of years, of course. I’ve suffered stress, illness, worry, and lots of boredom, but at least I haven’t had that AND working on top of it. My husband tells me ALL the time how much he appreciates all I do for the family - it’s odd how we seemed to have turned into the 50’s type families we both grew up in. But it seems to have worked out well for us. We are quiet loners, all of us, (our daughter of course is young and gets out of the house a lot) and don’t seem to need a lot of outside people and activities…So, I would say, if YOU are the antsy type who needs a lot of socializing, activity, have to keep busy all the time - if your children don’t plumb wear you out - you may not like being a SAHM. But if you are more laid back, can entertain yourself, appreciate the little things of life, and don’t positively loathe cooking and cleaning, it can be a lot of rewarding fun to be a SAHM… Worst thing: occasional loneliness/boredom/drudgery. Best thing: raising an awesome, beautiful, smart daughter. (And never having to get up at 6 a.m. to drive to the office in a f’ing snowstorm!)

Thank you for letting me run on regarding this subject, hope it helped, and good luck with your future family.

I’m going to be the dissent in this thread, with the caveat I was unable to SAHM from birth, instead we started when he was about 6mo old and I got in a position where bills could be paid.

I did it and I hated it. I would not do it again. I hated not having a life or a career. I hated being mom 24/7/365 without a let up. I love my son from the bottom of my heart, but if I could have gotten my ex husband to stay home with him it’d have been so much better. Day care isn’t a bad option.

I seriously feel as though I lost an entire decade that I will never get back, with no real diference made to my son. He’d have been totally fine with his dad or in a good day care, maybe even better than he would have been with me there. If I felt as though I’d made a real, positive difference in his life I would not regret it for an instant.

I resent being made to feel that being a SAHM was the very best option ever. I have real issues with the current cult of the child phenomenon that’s going around anyway - but that’s neither here nor there.

I have spent years paying for college loans for an education I didn’t really get to use in the workplace. I’m going to school again for a new career now. He didn’t turn out better than any of the kids that I knew that went to daycare, and in a lot of ways he is much, much worse. Maybe that’s him and maybe that’s me, but what do I know?

He’s in boarding school now as full disclosure, as a mid-teenager. This is because he steals anything not nailed down (and this being the Dope I should point out that I did, in fact, give him extensive instrucion that stealing is wrong) and he had other issues that were going to land him in jail if I didn’t do something - anything - to stop it happening. Obviously boarding school is a radical choice but the time had come for something radical as conservative approaches weren’t working. This has been the thing (so far) that’s brought him around and he’s doing really well. (It’s a regular boarding school, not a special needs one or anything.)

So…yeah. Just dissent. I agree with Alice The Goon about there being two kinds of women, and as it turns out, I’m not the kind that can SAHM even though I was.

All that said, if it’s your thing and you love it and you want it and you think it’s the best thing for your kid, then do it. Don’t hesitate. But don’t be afraid to say it’s not working out. I wish I had. And don’t think your kid will automagically be better off/smarter/better behaved than a kid who went to daycare, because that’s not true.

When I was a SAHM, my biggest obstacle to getting out was money, so I joined the YMCA for $75/ month and made the most out of it. I took advantage of their free babysitting to take exercise classes a few times a week. We took Mommy & Me swim classes together, I signed her up for painting classes, etc. I lived at the Y for a few years.

When they got a big older, I joined a co-op pre-school, which involved me working in the classroom every four days – which gave me three days to go and do whatever I wanted for a whole 2.5 hours.

I also joined a play group, which was a great way to meet people in my same situation.

Like everything else, it’s what you make of it.

I was at home for 11 years and loved it.

I want to go back to it so farkin’ desperately it brings me to near tears. Damn this economy. I know I am so very lucky to find a job with 40 hours + bennies, but dammit…

I know who my children are. What they are thinking before they think it. I know their poop schedule. (Poop schedules are important! My husband thinks I’m crazy, Butt, four people cannot be on the same poop schedule in a three seater house.) I know where they get their bad habits from ( me) . When they parroting lines from cartoons, I know which ones and I can talk about how good those lines are or why if they say those lines again obnoxious it is. And if they keep doing the same line over and over and over and over and over again, it just isn’t funny, like the episode of sponge bob where he ripped his pants. Beating the joke to death. Do it once and move on. (They can’t, not yet.)

I’ve volunteered hundreds of hours in the school could bring the TV life Electronic Pacifyer they know so well into the School world to help them learn whatever it is they had to learn. Spongebob is an excellent teaching tool. The teacher, with her fancy Masters Degree just stared at me and confessed she didn’t let her own kids watch SB. Her loss.

Reading aloud to them all book levels was and still is one of the most wonderful parts of parenting, even when you can do Cat in the Hat by heart with your eyes closed and half asleep and cannot wait for Easy Reader Books. And when you are stuck in Easy Reader World and dying from from the DRRRRRPPP of the plot and all you can do is dream of Chapter books, it is still enjoyable. When Chapter Books come into their world and you could put a yacht into the gaping plot holes and want to pull your hair out at some of it (kids with no supervision. are there any parents in these books?They are always back home in time for dinner, imagne that!) , you dream of YA books.

Then, you get to read a YA book to them and they cozy up to you and you start out

And you fall into a whole new world.

(And eventually, after book three, you are a quivering pile of goo and you just go…screw it, lets get the book on cd.)

I won’t tell you about the cost of any classes that your child needs(swim), afterschool activitie$ :baseball/wrestling/football/cheerleading/soccer/hockey…ooohboy…now there’s a cheap sport! And kiss your life goodbye if they are goodenough for a travel team. I hope you like booze. ), scouting (cookie nazi time!), brain-dead mommies, germ war-fare, braces, impetigo/ringworm/lice ( elementary fun!) Let alone how do you handle " The child is nice but the parent(s) are assholes." conundrum. That would scare the crap out of you. That is for after the child arrives and you are committed.) :smiley:

So, one thing I’m getting out of this is that being a SAHM is not boring, by any stretch of the imagination. That’s a relief.

Yeah, that’s me. I’m actually quite an introvert. I don’t need constant socialization, though I am capable of feeling socially isolated from time to time. That’s something my husband and I have both discussed; he agrees that we would definitely need to make sure I had some adult time without the kids.

Gosh, this sounds like a lot of work, though I like your list, dangermom–it really drives home how much room there is for individuality and creative expression.

I think I could get into this. It sounds like a fun challenge.

I don’t worship ‘‘the cult of the child’’ either, Gleena, but I am trying to be realistic about the extra support needed by kids who have been in and out of foster care all their lives. Those kids need, even more than others, someone there to provide not only constant unconditional positive regard, but predictable and reasonable consequences for their actions. I feel like the best way of providing true consistency and support is to be there. I fear if I were working I might more easily miss something important.

While my husband would probably be a kick-ass SAHD, he’s in a career track with an average salary twice as much as what mine would be. Not only that, but as I’m a macro social worker, I CAN use my degree in a volunteer capacity to continue the pursuit of social justice. It’s not like my education would be rendered worthless simply because I’m not getting paid for it.

Not only that, but it’s kind of a selfish thing. I’ve felt so torn over the last several years as I’ve pursued further education, because I’ve always hated/resented the idea of having to choose between career and family. I know people do both, but I’m not really looking for two full-time jobs if I can help it. I just feel like, if I’m gonna do this parenthood thing, I’m gonna really do it, it’s going to be my job, my life’s work. After the kids are out of the house I’ll probably go back for my Ph.D. But nothing seems more important right now than building a family.

Shirley, I read that as ‘‘40 hours + bunnies’’ and thought, ‘‘now that’s a perk!’’

Before having children, I worked as a structural engineer for 10 years. I have now been a SAHM for over six years (we have 2 kids).

I like the flexible schedule. There are actually a lot of chances for social interaction with other moms. I have a lot more friends now than when I was working. I like that as part of my job I can go to the park, the library, the beach. When my kids were smaller I could even go for walks while pushing them in the stroller. When they’re little they nap, and when they’re older they’re in school, so you can have some alone time. Yes, sometimes I’m counting the minutes until my husband comes home, but mostly I really enjoy it. All SAHM I know have some other projects they work on other than child-rearing. Some cook, some quilt, some join the PTA, some sell Pampered Chef. Myself, I recently learned how to weld. :smiley:

I don’t know if it’s because I hang out with other SAHM, but there doesn’t seem to be any stigma attached with it in this area.

My marriage is quite different after having kids but I don’t know how much of that is being a SAHM and how much is that being a mom really changes you.

Oh, I wouldn’t say this at all. I work part time and some days I am home with my kids (now 5 and 2) are incredibly boring. Often it is very emotionally challenging but not mentally challenging at all. You spend a lot of time doing repetitive tasks and conversing on a toddler level. It’s not boring in the sense of “there is nothing to do…I’m bored” kind of way. It’s more a mental boredom. You do the same things, change the same diapers, fix the same meals, clean the same counter, pick up the same toys, answer the same questions, read the same books…day after day after day. Now every day is not like this…but you go through stretches of it that can seem endless at the time. And yes, there are great joys that give you blessed relief and a renewed spirit but you don’t always know when those will come.

I really enjoy working part time (currently around 24 hours a week). I can’t say it’s the best of both worlds but I think it keeps me from the worst. I don’t think I would be able to get anything done at home or keep up with the kids’ schedules if I worked full time and I don’t think I would be very happy at home every day. (Plus the extra income makes the difference between struggling and making it work.)

I am going to stress this part. It’s easy to say, yeah, I will make time for myself. But…it is really hard to do. One day becomes another and your schedule fills up and there is no spare time or money very quickly. You need to be able to keep some kind of separate life for yourself, and your marriage, that is not your kids. That does not always mean a lot of time apart from them, although you need that too. But you certainly need some interests of your own, things that fulfill you spiritually and emotionally apart from your kids. Your kids will be very important to you but my advice is, do not let them become your whole world. This sounds easy but is hard. They will grow up and your job is to help them do it, and one day their lives will be separate from yours and you need a strong sense of self to be able to handle that.

Especially if you are going to have children with special needs. I would probably stay home full time if one of our children had special needs also. It would be really hard and your demands will increase even more.

I hope I don’t sound depressing! I love my kids and love being able to spend time with them and they do grow up really fast. But I do know some SAH parents that were kind of taken by surprise at how tough it really is…I think some people do it because they don’t really feel strongly about a career, or just are tired of their career, and think this will be the answer. But it doesn’t always work out that way.

Very true. A rule about “quiet time” after lunch is life-saving. If everyone has quiet time for, say, 1.5 hours, even after actual naps are outgrown, life is much much better. Kids can rest, listen to books on CD or music, draw, build with Legos…quietly and in their own room.

Yes, it can be a tough job, even with an kid without special needs. There is a lot of boredom; child care is not joy, excitement, and wonder 24/7 by any means! (and yes, it is an excellent idea to keep part of yourself for you and your marriage. A babysitter for a night out for mom and dad works wonders.) That’s the downside I mentioned in my post above, boredom, loneliness, and drudgery. (Of course, working in the outside world can ALSO be endless boring drudgery!) I sure did my fair share of waiting impatiently for my husband to come home so I could take off in my car - blessedly alone - for a while.

But I’ve always said, the days crawled, but the years just flew by. You will look back as my husband and I do now and realize those were the best days of your lives. True words.

I like Dangermom’s list too. I’ve always been a reader and always make time for that into my day. You can make time for yourself. I think the trap a lot of parent’s fall into is feeling like that have to act like a day care, constantly scheduling the whole day with organized schooling. Well, that’s the huge of advantage of being the parent: you don’t have to schedule anything except meals. :wink: My children are very good at playing independently because I didn’t worry about entertaining them all day long. They knew that I had my time and they had theirs. It works well until the fights break out and then I have to play referee. :wink:

I am currently working on a huge project that will (I believe) make a big difference in our local school district. Very beginning stages, but if I can make this happen it will require a huge chunk of my time. My youngest is in school now, so I have time during the day to volunteer. If had started working again like my husband I talked about, I would not be able to do it. So it’s kind of cool to be home where my time is more my own.

But then some people, and especially kids, really thrive on having their time structured and planned. That’s probably one of my biggest failures when I stayed home in the early 90’s with small kids- I didn’t know enough about what I was doing to realize that I’m one of those people that need structure, and I was pretty unhappy.

Another thing that really helps anyone with kids but especially if you don’t get enough alone time is to have a strict bedtime for the kids. Having a couple of hours to myself at the end of the day has always helped me to be a better mother, whether I stayed home or not.

Oh, you don’t sound depressing at all. Just realistic. I like the honesty all of you have displayed describing the negatives and positives, the regrets and lack thereof. I understand it’s not for everyone. I never imagined it could be for me. But the more I think about it, the more I like the idea.

I have no doubt that I’m going to overwhelmed, especially at first. And I’ll call every parent I know and scream, '‘How do you DO IT?!!"’

But if there’s one thing I’m good at it’s persevering. I embrace change and I’m willing to alter my approach, behavior or attitude if something’s not working. My husband is the same way, which is why I think we would work well together as a parenting team.

I’ve always thought of love not as something you feel, but as something you do, regardless of feeling. It’s a constant commitment to acting in the best interests of another person even if you’d really rather give them a good whack upside the head. So I don’t even consider the drudgery particularly awful, because to me it has a specific meaning.

I’m sorry, I’m getting all goopy. It’s kind of an emotional subject. I want to be a Mom so hardcore.

Sorry, I should have been more clear that wasn’t a shot at you, specifically. I can well imagine that children who have been through so much would need a SAHP of some sort, at least for a while. It was the beginning of a hijack that I thought would be better left alone.

I stand by what I said later - if it is right for you, and you’re keen to do it, do it. Go for it. But if it turns out later that it’s impossible and its making you mental, don’t be afraid to say so. Otherwise you end up trapped, resentful and bitter.

I’d like to say just one more thing. If you want to be a SAHM, it is very important to have some support. Some friends and relatives (hopefully with children) that you can talk to, socialize with, attend school plays with - that kind of thing. No matter how supportive your husband, there’s something sad about being isolated with a child and only a baby-rearing book to rely on for advice. Of course, you can sign up for Baby & Mommy groups, gymboree, Mommy’s Day Out, and the thousand things your kid can get involved with through school. But in the early years, even one good mom-friend can be a sanity saver.

From a current SAHM who is adopting, this is a whole new ball of wax. The thing you will not be at all used to is that no time is really your own during the day.

Despite all the patience you likely have, you will need more than any one human can possess. It’s like being thrown into the deep end when you’ve only seen the pool before. There is no ‘easing into it’ you are parents to older children with a lot of history instantly and it is very trying.

I recommend finding other SAHMs in your neighbourhood well before your children come home. And enlisting every relative or friend who will be supportive. Even just locking yourself in the bathroom for five minutes to talk to another grownup will help to get your patience back.

I also agree that there are some of us (myself included) who are just not meant to do this. Don’t be disappointed if you need to go back to work. Your mental health and that of your children are intertwined. You going back to work could be the best thing in the world for them.

I also agree with the posters above that you will be very busy but you will still be bored. There is a lot of drudgery and it is quite thankless. At work, there is more problem solving for me and it is always different. My brain needs that.