Tell me about buying a bicycle

After living here in Northern Virginia for a while, I’ve decided it’s time for me to get a bike. Something reasonably priced, used mostly for road riding with a fair amount of pothole/dirt path duty thrown in. Low maintenance and relatively durable. Not looking to enter any races or have it be super-lightweight or uber-fast. Just something to ride around on.

Alas, I’ve never bought a bike for myself! Some folks tell me to look on Craigslist and others tell me to only buy in person.

So I ask the collected wisdom of these boards for some advice. What should I particularly be looking for in my bike purchase? What kind of bike? (Theres at least a dozen varieties, and website research really hasn’t been that helpful.)

I remember biking around the neighborhood as a kid and really enjoying it, so I anticipate enjoying it again on the nice roads and paths in the DC area. Any advice would be awesomely appreciated!

I would really, really recommend going to an honest to god bicycle shop. A big one that specializes in bikes and nothing else.

I’m not a rider (I’m pit crew for my Wife). But the larger shops that specialize in bikes can size up you situation quickly. They may even have the bike you would like pretty cheap. And you don’t have to buy it. But at a big shop, you will see all that is available.

I say this because if you get something from a big box store, you may be turned off of it very quickly.

It sounds to me that you might be comfortable on a hybrid bike. This is a link to Trek. I don’t know anything about the company, I just thought it may be a good place for you to look around.

I don’t know if things have gotten better over the years, but I’ve always heard that bikes from places like Target or Wall-Mart are pretty much designed for people who will be bored with the bike within about 70 miles of use. You’d have to pay me decent money to ride one of those bikes anywhere that’d be a bitch to walk back from, because I’d pretty much expect that I would have to. At the lower end of the price scale for new bikes, you’re really going to get what you pay for. If, like Wall-Mart bikes, it’s something a reputable bike shop won’t carry, there’s probably a reason.

Yeah, not to pile on Nameslate but Target is a bad idea. Definitely go the bike shop route. Also, if there’s a community of road bike people where you are, there might be high-quality used ones for sale at very, very low prices if you look around. Where I live, there is a huge road bike community, both the tight-spandex-shorts-$600-helmet-and-official-gear-with-logos-all-over-it kind and the hipster/indie-rock-vintage-t-shirt-artistic-tattoo-having-messenger-bag-carrying kind, and there are perfectly decent road bikes with a lot of character routinely going for less than 100 at yard sales.

I agree with enipla about the bike shop and the hybrid bike. I bought a hybrid bike last year when I was interested in riding again but wasn’t sure if I’d be doing it all that much. They’re great for having fun around town and aren’t nearly as expensive as road bikes or many mountain bikes. As it turned out, I enjoyed it so much I decided to move up to a road bike this year.

As for the bike shop, the people there can usually help you find a bike that fits your budget, meets your needs, matches your size and will be comfortable to ride. Most shop staff I’ve encountered are in that business because they’re biking nuts, and will genuinely try to help you get the most enjoyment you can from your bike rather than trying to pump up their commissions.

If you’re an average size person you probably won’t have a problem, but if not make sure it’s the right size for you. When you pedal your upper thigh should not come past the horizontal at the top of the cycle, and at the bottom your leg should be only slightly bent at the knee.

If you’re going to ride off-road you may want to consider a bike with at least front suspension. If you think this is something you could spend a lot of time on, it’ll be well worth it to spend a little more rather then a little less (and not at a chain-store).

I’ll throw in a “me too” in part here. When I was a student, I got a hybrid to get to and from school, work etc. And even rode the thing like crazy for a summer as a bike courier. It was perfect as a starter bike because I would have been pissed if it had been stolen, but not homicidal. So if I decided riding wasn’t for me, or if the bike was stolen on campus, it wouldn’t have been a terrible loss. But it was still the upper end of the “cheap bikes”.

Do NOT by a bike at Target or Wal-Mart unless you want to chain it up to a fence and let is rust for the summer. Cheap steel frames and really lousy gear shifting will make riding unpleasant enough that you may not do it. Sometimes you luck out, but really, if the bike is an uncomfortable clunker, you won’t be riding (seriously, the differences may be subtle but the effects are ultimately huge). Go to an honest to Spaghetti Monster bike shop, then get an affordable lower end hybrid from there.

My girlfriend (cyclist) owns FOUR different bikes: A serious road bike, a serious mountain bike, and the one she calls “the beater” which is a mountain bike (the narrower wheeled variety) she uses for transportation throughout the big city (I don’t remember what the 4th bike is.) The beater is a low-end mountain bike from a bike shop. It’s too heavy for serious off-roading, but it has smooth gear shifting and is a comfortable ride - an all around reliable, all=purpose, good bike and perfect for ziping aorund the city.

You want a frame that will let you stand on your feet with the cross bar about an inch or so from your crotch. You want the seat to be high enough that when you pedal you get a full extension in your leg, and you don’t want your knees coming up higher than the cross bar on the upswing because you’ll be using too much energy and tucker yourself out riding that way.

No need to knock Craig’s List, I got my Gary Fisher that way and I’m very happy with it. But make sure you already have a really good idea of what you’re looking for, then ask a million questions (when talking about frame size, people sometimes measure differently). Go to a bike shop, figure out what you need as far as frame size and components. Any good bike shop willl help you figure out the kind of frame you need. Before you buy, check Craig’s List, just in case there’s a really good deal. Go and see it, make sure they let you try it out.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don’t do this. For one, the bikes at these stores are incredibly heavy compared to even low-end good bikes. And, more importantly, have you ever looked at the construction on those puppies? Crappy welds (nothing like a bike ready to pop apart at the seams!), crappy parts (a bike that won’t shift, brake, or steer is no fun), crappy everything, generally put together wrong by some guy with no clue and no interest 'cuz he’s just making his minimum wage.

The most important part in enjoying bicycling is getting a bike that fits you and what you plan to be doing. The easiest way to do this is to go to a good local bike shop. If you’re not sure where a good, local bike shop is, ask any of the bike geeks riding around. (If they’re dressed head-to-toe in eye-blinding colors of lycra and plastic, they’re a bike geek.) This also has other benefits - for instance, most of the bikeshops around here give at least a year’s maintenance/tuneups with any bike. Some have lifetime tuneups for their bikes. Unless you’re interested in learning to be a bike mechanic, you’ll want this.

I would be very careful about purchasing a bike without trying it out, particularly since you’re not familiar with biking. A bikeshop will help you get a bike that fits you, which will make riding much, much more fun.

If you’re worried about cost, ask the bikeshop about used bikes. It’s a good way to get a higher-level bike for the same money. They’ll generally be perfectly happy to sell you a used bike, figuring that if they get you good and hooked you’ll be back every year or so for a new toy. Not to mention, most bike store employees work there because they’re bike fanatics, not to make the big bucks (it is to laugh!), so they’re usually really good about helping people get started biking.

For the type of riding you describe, I’d say a hybrid would be a good choice. Position is more upright, easier to ride on streets than a suspended mountain bike, but tough enough to take mild offroad. Talk to the bike shop guys - they’re more familiar with your region and what you might need.

Have fun!

[on preview]OK, should have actually read the thread first, I see that most of it’s been said already. Oh well, I’ll throw in my two cents anyway.

If you’re going to be riding more than just a few times this summer then I will strongly advise against going the Wal-Mart route.
After selling off my mountain bike because it was not a good fit for me, I ran to Wal-Mart and bought an $80 hybrid. Big mistake. It’s great if I want to hop on it to go downtown for while but once I decided to ride more seriously and go on 30 mile trips every Saturday and Sunday, I wanted to chuck the bike into the river. It’s heavy, a lot of work to pedal, the gears slip, the brakes constantly need adjusting and it makes riding a less than stellar experience. I really wish I had just gone to the local bike shop and shelled out the $175 for a simple but well made bike.
I really wish I could afford some of the top line bikes but they run from $250 to $700 (and up from there if you’re a pro)

Get yourself a good bike.

Bolding mine.

That’s been my Wifes and my experience as well. These folks REALLY care about there customers.

I’m also going to suggest the “bike shop” route. Most of these local places will be able to give you suggestions for what you want based on your needs.

As a student, I had a hybrid from Sports Authority (The local places in the area were the Socialist Bike Shop in what I referred to as “dirty hippie territory” and was out of the way, and the other one only had bikes that started at $600.) and made sure that it had good tires, gear shifting, brakes, etc. Tallahassee had hills, and the sidewalks were almost always guaranteed to have dirty, clay, or sand on them in spots in the areas that didn’t have bike lanes. (Most roads in that area didn’t have bike lanes.) I paid about $150 because it was on sale from $200, and it worked really well for me.

The bike I have at home is a Mongoose mountain bike. I seriously love this bike, as it’s got all the features I need and rides very smoothly. After my first bike (as a teenager) being one of those cheapo hybrids from Wal-Mart, I have come to appreciate the fact that my bike isn’t likely to have the gears not work, the brakes crap out, or other “joys” that come along with what you get for the construction of those bikes.

The local bike shop guy that I deal with is great. I got a new tire pump, and, of course, I’m not very good at using the new-fangled styles, so I ended up having to exchange it for the old fashioned pump that he had to special order. I appreciated his promptness so much with this and his eagerness to help me out that I spent the cost difference on a good night kit in their store. Not only will you get better service, but it’s a great thing to support a good local business when you can.

I love my local Target. I shop there all the time and always get good friendly service. That having been said, I would never, ever, ever buy a bicycle there. It’s not that they’re bad people or don’t mean well, it’s just that, as stated several times in this thread, they carry bicycles that aren’t really meant for much usage. Additionally, bicycles generally don’t arrive all put together; someone has to do it. And at Target or Walmart or wherever that means you are relying on the ability of some stock boy with very little experience with bikes to read the instructions and get it right. I suppose such a bicycle would be OK to ride about the neighborhood or a mile or two on a well-maintained and not-too-difficult trail at a rather low speed, but I personally would not recommend it.

Do not buy a bicycle over the internet. Maybe you’ll get a good deal, maybe you’ll get a safe bike … as a novice you simply do not have enough knowledge to tell.

A bike shop is the best way to go. But don’t hesitate to leave a bike shop that you don’t like. When I first moved to Dallas years and years ago, I went to a bike / exercise shop near where I lived where all the employees had this “we’re cool and you’re not” attitude and I rather foolishly continued to shop there for some time until I got into a yelling match with their “mechanic” over whether or not he’d fucked my bike over after a tune-up. Looking back, it’s easy to see I should never have done business with them in the first place. I then found another bike shop – a real one, not some part-time bike and other stuff shop – that treated me with respect from the first time I entered the place, and have shopped there ever since. That’s key. If you tell them you haven’t ridden since you were a kid and they’re excited about getting you on a bike again, then odds are that’s the shop for you.

I will add my voice to the “avoid big box store bikes” chorus. One thing I have not seen mentioned yet is that “real” bikes come in a range of frame sizes. Big box bikes come in ONE size. If you are exactly average height and inseam, they might fit. If you are tall, or short, a bike shop can hook you up with a frame that will accommodate your dimensions.

As a kid, I saved up my paper-route money for a “ten speed”. (it was the 70’s, and 10 speeds was all anybody needed, and we LIKED it). A local department store (anybody remember Denver Dry?) advertised a sale just a little more than my savings, and with a small loan from Dad, I had me a genuine “made in Spain” 10 speed.

I mention that, not to denigrate Spanish manufacturing, but to point out that since Europeans were big into cycling, that should have boded well. It wasn’t to be. That bike was nothing but trouble. The derailleurs were junk, I probably spent more time putting the chain back on than riding. The frame was so soft that dad had to weld reinforcements on at several places. It also hurt me pretty badly twice. Turns out under hard pedaling, the dogs in the freewheel would slip. This is the ratchet mechanism that allows you to coast without the pedals turning. When you are pushing very hard on the pedals, and the freewheel slips, the pedaling resistance suddenly goes from very high to zero. The effect is like when one kid jumps off a teeter-totter, and the other kid comes crashing down. The first time I didn’t know why I suddenly crashed.

I doggedly kept fixing whatever broke next, but finally gave up on it. I could never trust it farther from home than I was willing to push it. I don’t imagine I put more than a couple hundred miles on that bike. When I graduated from high school, my parents wanted to get me a new bike. I insisted that it come from a “real” bike shop…Actually, by then I was much too tall for one-size-fits-all department store bikes. My dad knew what crap that first bike had been, so he was with me, but Mom was slower to get on board…actually, I think it was bought over her objections, but after a year or so of me riding EVERYWHERE and not having to fix anything, I think she realized it was a good deal.

That bike was NOT top-of-the-line. Japanese frame and components, not European. But everything “just worked.” The derailleurs were ridged enough, and their joints not sloppy, so it shifted easily, and stayed in gear. The brakes never dragged, and didn’t shudder. The cables stretched slowly enough that a once-a-year adjustment was all that was needed. The spokes didn’t stretch, and the wheels stayed true. The frame geometry was correct, and it was stable yet responsive. I rode that bike all through college, and commuted to work for a couple of years after that. I rode it in a couple of century (100 miles in a morning) rides. I could keep up all day with my cross-country team, marathon running buddy on his “sears” bike.

After many thousands of miles, that bike died in a crash caused by an inattentive car driver, the frame being bent to the point of making the handling dangerous. In all those miles, the only major thing I had to fix was replacing a rear wheel that got bent in a pothole. I think I changed out the seat to something more comfortable, and put some lighter weight pedals on it, and that was ALL it ever needed.

As others have said, it is a thousand seemingly minor details that make a bike a joy vs. a PITA to ride. A good bike will cause you pain in the wallet ONE TIME. A bad bike will kick you in the ass every time you ride it, and that won’t be very often.

So you’re the one who sold me that piece of shit at a garage sale back in '84! You bastard!

(Nothing more fun than going over a speed bump and having your chain and front wheel fall off.)

Thanks for the advice! I’ll be heading off to a bike shop in the next few weeks or so to get a good low-end hybrid bike.

Only in America would you get posts that indicate that if you’re poor, you can’t afford to ride a bike.

Evil Captor ----

I and others in this thread gave the best advice for what we know. Buying a shity bike for half the cost that may not be used is not good advice.

WE suggested Evil Captor, that aclubs look to local experts, get suggestions and then purchase something that would actually do the job that she needs it to do.

Nah, only on the Internet will you get posts telling you that the cheapest POS bike isn’t worth the money you waste on it.

If the U.S. was a place where a bike = basic worker transportation, Target and Wal-mart would sell better bikes.

Thanks for the advice, but I’m a dude. :slight_smile:

I agree that bike shop bikes are a huge improvement over WalMart bikes, but I don’t necessarily think WalMart bikes are valueless. You guys are like tennis players who’ll tell you that it’s really important to have a good racket. Well, it is better to have a good racket than a bad one, I’ll grant you that, and the same goes for bikes.

But for a beginner the difficult part of biking involves getting in condition to bike and getting your butt used to the bike seat – I speak as one who greatly curtails and often stops biking during the winter and so have had to make many painful, ahem, adjustments in the spring. Even with well-padded seat, it’ll take your butt awhile to get used to it.

When you want to buy a bike and you don’t have much money, you are faced with three options:

  1. Get a cheap bike at Target or Walmart now
  2. Spend some time haunting garage sales and such looking for a good quality bike on sale at a reasonable price. All you really need is the right size frame, you can replace all the other parts over time if they are rusted, etc. (This is the approach I took this spring, I bought a used John Deere bike at Goodwill for $10. By all accounts it’s a POS, but it’s at least big enough to accommodate me. (I’m 6’4" so most WalMart/Target bikes just aren’t big enough for full leg extension even with the seat post hiked to the max, which really is very important, because my legs get crampy if they can’t get fully extended). I look forward to a lot of fun fixing it up and tricking it out over the next few weeks.
  3. Buy a relatively pricey bike at a good bike shop. If you have the money, this is the best way to go, although if you don’t use it regularly, you’ve spent more money than you had to. Plus, you’re not getting any exercise.

I think buying a Walmart/Target bike to see if you like cycling is a fine idea. I bought a $99 comfort bike at Target and it lasted for two years. Its only problem was that the frame was too small. Never had any of these dereailleur or brake problems that were quoted. (I did have to adjust the derailleur and change the brake pads, but you’ll probably have to do that with a quality bike on occasion, too.)

Just be aware that once you get fit you WILL notice the difference in the ride of a quality bike, a lot. But when you’re just starting out, ALL cycling is hard.