Tell me about buying an iPad.

OK, so I’m being tempted by an iPad. As a ebook device for myself, and a distraction device for the kids, and so forth.

But holy hell are they expensive to pick up new. I’m thinking of bidding for one on ebay and it looks like a 64GB one can be had in the $150-250 range.

But tell me more about it. 16 or 64GB? (my instinct is always for more memory). wifi or 3G or both? I’ve got a wifi set up in the house so that’s EZ. But the 3G might be useful elsewhere though I’ve heard it only connects through AT&T. Is that correct?

Also, what little pleasant and unpleasant surprised can I expect should I acquire one? I’ve been an iPod and iTunes user for years now so I’m familiar with such.

How does the iTunes library ad up? If the 10 year old want Heinlein’s juveniles on a long trip are the available?

How 'bout it, Dopers?

US? Then only AT&T right now.

I’d go for the larger space. A movie can take anywhere from 2-4 gig, depending on format, so doesn’t make for too many of those on a 16gb unit, which will really be 14.something formatted with OS.

Googling “heinlein juveniles ebook” got a few hits, with a comment somewhere indicating that 9 of them were available in ePub format, but I didn’t dig beyond that.

Go for the larger one. I have 3G, and you only get service through ATT which, amazingly enough, is not available where I live, but I’ve bought it for vacations. So many places have wi fi that I use that the most, especially at home. I love the size and weight, and use it almost exclusively at home.

Cons? No flash so no flash games and no shopping on sites that have flash catalogues. No USB port. Can’t charge it in the car, but the battery lasts a long time. No Office, so I can’t work on school stuff.

I love it, though.

Really? I knew that some older USB hubs wouldn’t charge it, but I find it surprising it can’t power up through a car adapter.

You should recheck your numbers on eBay. I think you’ll find pricing more like 3-4x that amount.

Correction: You can charge it through the car, I do it frequently.

Point of note: What are going to use your iPad for? If you already have an iPod/iPhone/MP3 player with your music collection, you don’t really need it on your iPad, you that’s storage you can afford not to get (using my experience as retrospect).

I’ve got a 12 gig music collection, I got a 32 gig iPad, it’s got 18 odd gigs filled up, and I’ve only used it to listen to music a few times, my iPhone is just a much more convenient music player. The other 6 gigs are movies, PDF files, Comic books (woohoo, Star Trek comic app!), and a few odd and in pictures. I could’ve gotten the 16 gig and been just fine.

OTH, if you’re planning on putting many movies on it (like, on a vacation with 10+ movies) frequently, you should get the larger versions. Keep in mind, you can remove movies after you’ve watched them.

iBooks, the iBook store has a ton of books, including a lot of free ones, even for kids. Winnie the Pooh is one of the best selling books (free) in the store.

There are some very cool applications – everything from Flipboard (a magazine style social media monitor) to IM+ (Multiprotocol IM) to Gravilux (an entirely pointless, neat little doodad). Harbor Master, especially if you’ve got a young kid who’s going to play with it. It’s free, easy, and ridiculously time consuming. The yungin 'll love it.

As for 3G or Wifi? I got WIFI only and haven’t thought twice. I can use my iPhone as a WiFi hotspot, but even without it, my iPad has enough content on it. Between a half dozen or dozen games, three or four books, two movies, five comics and a music library that’s too large for me to remember half of, I’m overwhelmed with content – the internet can wait. And two issues of Wired Magazine. And an issue of Popular Mechanics. And a few things I’m not sure could be classified as games, but are really fun anyway.
And if you’re in a Wifi hotspot, don’t bother using the movies on your iPad – use Netflix. Or Hulu plus. Or ABC player.

So, depending on what you’re using it for? IME – the 16 GB Wifi will do you fine.

From a look at iPad completed sales on eBay, I think you have an unrealistic price in mind. $500 would be an exceptional price for a 64GB iPad (although someone just paid $480 - for a BOX from a 64GB iPad :smack:)

Unless you have tons of music and/or videos you want to store on it, the smaller ones work fine but may have less resale potential.

Books are extremely small, thousands should fit on the 16GB iPad.

Only two ‘juvies’ seem to be in the iBook Store - Podkayne and Space Cadet.

I beg to differ.

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I have a 32GB Wi-Fi only iPad.

The biggest surprise I’ve had out of mine is the battery life. It is unbelievable – literally, to the point that I thought the battery indicator wasn’t working properly when I first bought it – how slowly the battery drains, both during standby and active use. If you’re coming from a laptop that needs to be charged every five or six hours, the difference will be mindblowing.

One of the downsides has been that some of the apps don’t communicate with each other as well as I’d like. This is more a problem for the developers than Apple, obviously. It’s great when Twitter integrates with my chosen RSS app (substitute a service where you consume and sometimes like to share, and a service where you share stuff to), but when they don’t it seems like a bigger barrier to copy something, then switch apps, then paste and post, then switch back and find my place again. I suppose it’s really no different than doing that on a desktop, but since you’re limited to one app running at a time, it feels like a bigger deal. Luckily, most of these apps now integrate with most of these services, so it’s not a huge problem.

The upcoming iOS 4.2 (in November) for iPad will incorporate some of the new stuff the iPhone has gotten recently, like “multitasking” (quotes because it’s only kinda multitasking), which may have an effect on both of the issues in the paragraphs above.

Memory seems like pretty dependent on what you want to do with it – with kids and such, it might be more useful to have a bunch of space. Personally, I don’t go on a lot of trips and when I do I’m driving or otherwise occupied, so I don’t feel the need to carry my entire library (movies or music) around with me all the time.

I’ve got about 2400 songs, 2 feature-length movies and a bunch of shorter ones, a couple thousand photos and over 100 apps on mine right now, and I’ve got almost 4 GB of the 32 GB left (the usable capacity on a 32 GB is actually around 29 GB). Encoding settings and size of apps and such will obviously make these numbers vary pretty significantly, but I’ve found 32 GB to be more than adequate for me.

As a vague point of reference, most of my movies are encoded at 800-something by 350-450-something (depending on their original aspect ratio), set up so they take about 1.5 GB of space each, and that’s more than sufficient for me on the iPad’s screen. Of course I’ve always seen these movies “on the big screen”, meaning at least TV if not theater, and so my brain fills in the details.

Given that there’s no USB port and general file system, it’s a bit of a pain getting anything not directly Apple-sanctioned (i.e. movies, music, podcasts, audiobooks, ebooks, apps and photos) onto or off of the thing, and darn near impossible if you’re not at your “home computer” (where you sync your iPad). There are good .pdf and other file readers, and apps that create and open files in various formats, but aside from transferring them through iTunes, email or Dropbox sometimes works (if the file’s small enough and the iPad recognizes the file format and knows which program to use it with), and that’s pretty much it. I don’t run into this problem a lot, but when I do it can be frustrating.

As far as the books go, Amazon offers a Kindle App that is basically that: You can buy Kindle books through Amazon’s store, and read them on iPad. They automatically, wirelessly sync to any other Kindle apps or devices you own too, so if in the future you should get a Kindle or another Apple device, your purchases will be readable there. You can see the Kindle store here.

All that said, I’ve been – and remain – impressed with my iPad since I bought it on day one. I don’t own a laptop, and paired with a Bluetooth keyboard it works well for my very light media creation needs. For media consumption it’s wonderful – browsing news feeds at the coffeeshop (I read the paper newspaper, then check my news feeds and Twitter and such until I’m ready to leave), reading books from Apple’s iBooks or the Amazon Kindle app before falling asleep, that sort of thing. Here’s one, I use Instapaper to save long articles I want to read but can’t spend the time on right now (I find many of these over the course of my day at work, for example), and then fill little pockets of time by knocking out the list one by one. More productive than playing a game or scanning here or whatever, plus they’re accessible even when you don’t have a signal.

This is something you might be interested in, if you don’t already have it.

It allows you to play .avi (specifically, xvid) movies on your iPad. It needs iTunes file transfer, though.
Also, you may/may not know this, but iBooks has a very good PDF reader now, and it’s much faster than the 3rd party apps.

Ouch. What sort of defense does that guy have? The description clearly said “no ipad”, but the condition said:

If it’s unopened…

Thank you for the correction about charging. I must not have the right cord.

And for those who read voraciously but not necessarily current media;

Their entire library is free on iBooks.

Sorry, that was a rapid search by author (had to interrupt my wife’s use of the iPad).

I misread you, badly. I read “only two juvenile books,” not as in “Only two of Heinlein’s Juveniles.”

I have the 32gb wifi version in front of me - using it to reply to this thread while I’m at the auto shop. As I have an iPhone I saw no reason to get a 3G contract, and in my city virtually every business has wifi.

I don’t store music on my iPad, as I’ve got an iPod and iPhone. So tons of space for PDFs, netflix, etc. I jailbroke mine so I have Backgrounder running, with Pandora, so I can have music any time I want to.

I’m hiding mine from my 3 year old, but when he’s a little older I think he’ll have a blast with it. I haven’t read any books as of yet, so maybe I’ll check out the app store and see what’s there. If you do any reading intensive activities, I would say this is the device for you. It is pricey but I figure with AppleCare you’re covered. I would not buy a first gen apple product without AppleCare.

I got the camera connection kit and use it to store my photos. It’s awesome for this purpose - the photo app is dead easy to use; just connect and it downloads everything. Even better, it plays the movies from my Nikon D90 no problem.

My biggest gripe is that the brightness level is way too high for nighttime web surfing. I think they’ve got good controls for the book apps, but the general browsing experience isn’t great in the dark.