Tell me about the Coast Guard

What is it like working in this particular branch of the military? What are some of the advantages of joining the Coast Guard over other branches of the military?

Given its diversity, I am sure there are some Coastie dopers on the SDMB, or at least someone who is related to one. I am interested in hearing their feedback about it. When I think of the Coast Guard, I think of guys in little boats escorting ships in/out of harbors, or rescuing people in stricken vessels with helicopters. But I am sure there is more to it than just that.

Whoops, meant to put this in IMHO. Can a mod move it pretty please?

Scruloose is a Coastie. Here is a thread of his on the USCG’s rapid and highly-competent response to Katrina last year.

Perhaps he’ll wander by this thread, or you could e-mail him and request his presence…

It’s more Law Enforcement than Military, although they can be seconded to the Navy in an emergency.

I have a cousin that spent 12 years in the Coast Guard. The CG is actually run by the Department of Homeland Security, not the Department of Defense. It is operated at a military unit though. After boot camp, my cousin was stationed in Corpus Christi, Texas (hated it there), Philadelphia (hated), Newport, Oregon (loved it) and Oakland, California (loved it). Depending on your job, you could end up at a bustling sea port in a major city or at a remote communications station in the middle of nowhere. I had hoped to join the CG after high school but at the time in the mid 70’s, there was a 2 year wait. Take a look at there website, I did and there appears to be a lot of info available.

I’m in the CG. I’ve been enlisted now for 15 years; I just may make a career out of it. The Coast Guard is kind of like an enigma, wrapped in a riddle, smothered in secret sauce, and I could go on for hours about it. I’ll try to stick to your specific questions:

Well that certainly depends on what one would consider an advantage. Some of the more popular “advantages” would be:[ul]
[li]Most assignments are within the US and its territories;[/li][li]Many assignments are down right paradise;[/li][li]A * H U G E * amount of responsibility routinely given to very junior personnel;[/li][li]You can travel the world - even to the North Pole and Antarctica if you’re lucky;[/li][li]Working environments typically less formal than DOD counterparts;[/li][li]The work and the missions are extremely rewarding;[/li][li]I’ll stop here, but I could go on…[/li][/ul]

Those are certainly the more visible missions that we do, but as you guessed, there’s much, much more to it than that. For starters, the CG maintains a large number of cutters ranging in size from 65’ to 420’ in length. The missions of these cutters vary greatly. The largest are the icebreakers. They will deploy for about 6 months at a time and spend much of their time conducting scientific research and helping ships get in and out of McMurdo on Antarctica. They see some pretty nice port calls along the way.

The white cutters, from patrol boats to the almost 400’ high endurance cutters, primarily focus on search & rescue and law enforcement, although they will do just about any mission they’re asked to do. The law enforcement missions include counter narcotics, fisheries enforcement, migrant interdiction ops, recreational boating safety and general enforcement of US laws and treaties, among others. The smaller patrol boats will hang out closer to shore and typically patrol for several days to a month or more. They can be deployed overseas, and right now we have several of them in Iraq right now. The larger cutters will patrol anywhere in the world, usually from 2 to 6 months at a time. There’s usually one hanging out with a Navy fleet somewhere.

The most unsung, overworked and hearty sailors in the Coast Guard can be found on the black hulls, or the buoy tenders. Almost every single buoy in the US and its territories belongs to the Coast Guard, and the buoy tenders set them, fix them, clean them, replace them and repair them. It is very dangerous, dirty and hard work, and those who do it don’t want to do anything else. Those boys and girls earn their pay and then some.

There are tons of other cutters out there, all listed here if you’re curious.

On the shore side of things, there are the small boat stations, or SAR stations, and the AnT (Aids to Navigation) Teams.

The SAR stations are the most visible; they operate the small boats you see zipping around harbors, escorting ships in and out and rescuing people in distress. These stations are typically manned by all enlisted crews. They primarily focus on SAR and law enforcement, but as always, will do just about anything you need them to do. The most visible of these stations are the Lifeboat Stations of the Pacific Northwest, operating the self-righting 47’ motor life boat. They take those boats out into the worst seas in the world, and they like it. They really are the cream of the crop and don’t get paid anywhere near what they should.

The AnT teams are the shore side ‘black hull sailors’, and they keep the lights winking and blinking. They fix and maintain smaller aids to navigation, including lighthouses, ranges, buoys and such. They operate a wide variety of small boats as well. They will also conduct law enforcement and SAR when needed.

Then there are the Air Stations. In addition to what you’d normally think of (SAR helicopters), they operate C-130s and Falcon jets. In addition to the law enforcement patrols and SAR they conduct, they can have some unique missions. For example, since the sinking of the Titanic, the CG has overseen operation of the International Ice Patrol, a unit which tracks icebergs in the North Atlantic. C-130s still fly today conducting this mission. There is also a squadron of armed helicopters that carry machine guns and a sniper rifle and are used for counter-narcotics missions. They are very successful at this mission.

Some of the land jobs, while less “glamorous”, are no less important. The CG, as everyone is now aware, handles port security. Every foreign ship that enters the US is screened and, at some point, inspected by USCG marine safety personnel. They also respond to hazmat and oil spills, natural disasters, accidents and anything else that happens on or near the water.

I’d say I’ve rambled enough here. I’ve left off more of what we do than I’ve included, but those are the most common and visible things we do. I will say that there really isn’t a ‘typical’ CG career. I’ve done a variety of missions and my experience to that end is hardly unique. While most of my time has been spent doing law enforcement and SAR, I’ve also done domestic icebreaking, AtoN, Ice Rescue and currently I do port state control (inspecting foreign ships). My next assignment is another SAR station. The CG, despite it’s lack of massive funding, really does take care of it’s people, which is supported by the fact that our first term attrition rate for enlisted and officers is something like 85%. We do an awful lot of missions with only about 40K people, so we’re usually pretty busy. But it’s a very good kind of busy and very rewarding.

I would just like to say that we love and appreciate the Coast Guard. They do a lot more here than Scruloose mentioned, risking their own lives, and sometimes losing them, saving our fishermen and families who live in remote villages.

My #2 daughter will be heading to C.G. bootcamp at the end of the month. She is hoping to spend the time waiting for her chosen scools to have space on an icebreaker. I am very proud of her!

Wow, thanks for all the feedback! Just in case it wasn’t incredibly obvious, I was considering joining in the near future if things don’t go the way I plan with other endeavors. One reason is to have an opportunity to do something unique and to challenge myself in a new career field. Last year at a job fair the Coast Guard had a booth, and since then it has always kind of been on my mind.

Does the CG operate its own training schools, or do they send their trainees to schools operated by, say, the Navy?

The Coast Guard and the state of Alaska have always enjoyed a special relationship on a level unseen with any other state. When Alaska first entered the union, the Revenue Cutters that patrolled those waters were often the only federal representatives in the region. As a result, the captains often handled all federal law issues in the region, on land and sea. One of the CG’s more controversial figures was “Hell Roaring” Mike Healy. While in command of the Cutter Bear, he personally saw to the needs of the native Alaskans and is credited with saving them from potential starvation by importing reindeer to region. Healy and the cutter Bear became the stuff of legend in one of the most unforgiving environments on Earth.

Well, if you have any specific questions, please let me know. Whether you’re thinking about enlisting or becoming an officer, bear in mind that at its core, the USCG is a navy and a military service, and life isn’t always action packed excitement in the Bahamas. Junior enlisted coming from boot camp stand a good chance of of serving aboard larger cutters for their first tours, and painting and mess cooking will be a part of life for a while. Like any other job, there are dues to be paid, so to speak. Some folks come in expecting life to be much like they saw it on Baywatch, while they hang over the bow of the cutter in a bosun chair painting the anchor in the freezing rain. Inform yourself as much as possible.

Is there some specific mission or job that you’d like to do in the CG? Or skill you’d like to learn?

The Coast Guard operates its own training centers for most formal “A” and “C” schools. The two largest training commands that handle the majority of the load are TRACEN Yorktown, VA and TRACEN Petaluma, CA. The aviation training is handled at Aviation Training Center Mobile, AL and at Aviation Technical Training Center Elizabeth City, NC. The law enforcement courses are at FLETC in South Carolina. The only “A” school that I’m aware of that isn’t at at CG facility is Public Affairs Specialist, which is held at the Defense Information School in Ft. Meade, MD.

We do send people to various DOD & civilian schools all the time, however. Many of the Navy schools, for example, we couldn’t live without. In particular, the damage control/ fire fighting schools as well as some weapons related schools have particular relevance to our missions.

As I said in my previous post, we both love and appreciate the efforts of the Coast Guard in Alaska. They are the folks who brave the extreme weather to medavac folks from the villages. One incident here (I’ll try to look up the cite) when a man in Akiok was dying during a terrible storm, and the CG rescue 'copter crashed into a mountain on their way to bring the man to town. The entire crew was lost.

My husband, being a commercial fisherman, has had incidents in which the Coast Guard has been on the scene to help. Thank God he hasn’t needed any extreme help, but a couple of years ago they hit a rock while seining, busted a couple of small holes in the hull, and the C.G. evacuated the crew save for my husband and his skipper, and then escorted the fishing vessel back to port.

When the Exxon Valdez disaster occured, the C.G. was everywhere. I participated in the cleanup, and we always had a couple of “Coasties” with us on the beaches.

There are many many more incidents I could relate, but it boils down to the fact this would be a much more deadly place to live with out the Coast Guard. Brave, courageous folks.

As for the schools, I only know at this point that my daughter will be going to New Jersey for boot camp, and she has requested to be stationed on the west coast.

I’m sorry, but I want to make sure I understand. Is there a 85% attrition rate or a 85% retention rate?

Best of luck to your daughter, kaiwik. What school is she looking at? As far as getting an icebreaker, those can be hard to get on believe it or not. She’ll do a ‘dream sheet’ at boot camp - have her put down any Polar Class breaker as her number one pick, then shoot for any other afloat unit in the area she desires, then any afloat unit anywhere. The point being, get an afloat unit out of boot camp. Life seems to be more difficult for those who go to land for their first tours.

That was probably this incident:

CG pilots in Alaska don’t get paid enough for the conditions they routinely fly in. The most recent CG helo crash was in Alaska last year. An HH-60 Jayhawk crashed while evacuating the crew of the ill-fated Selendang Ayu. While the aircraft crew survived, many of the ship’s crew who were on board the Jayhawk, sadly, did not survive.

Alaska can be a tough place to work and live.

Heh.
:smack: Yes, I meant retention rate. Thanks.

As friend in CG sais that it was the most gat friendly, if you know what I mean. :dubious: :stuck_out_tongue:

I sure don’t.

They’re friendly to Thompson .45 cal submachine guns?

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Thanks, Scruloose, that is the incident I was referring to. The community was very torn up over it, a local band wrote and recorded a song about it, and there is a memorial here in honor of all the Coast Guard personnel who have lost their lives in the line of duty. Here is a link to a Coast Guard site here on the island, lots of photos:
http://www.kadiak.org/uscg/index.html

You are correct in saying that there is inadequetly compensation for the weather conditions they work in. I lived in Larsen Bay, a village on the west side of the island, and there were some medevacs in weather I certainly wouldn’t care to be in the air during. Then there is the sea, it’s an “extreme” job, for certain.

I will pass on the information to my daughter, the recruiter she has been working with has, so far, seemed very helpful, and has encouraged her to get on an icebreaker. She wants to go to firefighter and welding schools. I can easily see her making a career in the Coast Guard.

Thank you again for you input, and I’ll remember you if I have questions in the future. Thank you also, for serving the country, having lived on the west coast all my life I have been thankful for the Coast Guard many times.

Well, thanks to Scruloose, I now have a bit of trivia. Who is the only Pulitzer prize winner to have a US government ship named for him?

No, it ain’t Hemingway.

Yep - he enlisted in 1939 as a Mess Attendant Third Class, and retired in 1959 as a Chief Journalist. At the time he made Chief, he was the only Chief journalist in the service.