This more or less matches with what tomndebb already explained: she wants to reverse tax cuts that were already passed, which is in effect taking money away from people the tax cuts would have benefited. I agree with the sentiment, although I think the phrasing is hideous.
It should also be noted that this was a quote from 2004, so it may not even reflect her current opinion.
You have got to be kidding me! Surely you don’t think I meant that Clinton would be a full-blown dictator in actual point of fact. You know better and so do I.
Oh, and by the way, to respond to your thread-title request, “Hilary would not be a socialist dictator.” You asked to be told it; I did.
You might look some of what they said about Eleanor Roosevelt while her husband was president, and how foolish they look now for having said it. Then remember that ER is Hilary’s chosen role model. (I’m sure you can find some juicy stuff that way too, if you care to look into it.)
Right. You ranted, as I’ve already noted was your privilege. And got called on it, and rephrased your rant. Now, I’m asking what specific issues you have with HRC. I though my asking that question was clear; you, unlike some ranteurs generally have some point behind your hyperbole.
If the rest of us are supposed to prove that Hilary doesn’t preside at Lesbian cannibal orgies consuming puree de fetus abortee soup or that she doesn’t plan on turning Wyoming into a statewide memorial for Matthew Shepard, it would be nice to know what it is that you actually allege she’d do that has incited your wrath, so that we can analyze it.
Okay. See? Ignorance fought. I mentioned in my OP that the things I have heard in regard to her were recollections from long ago that had eventually slipped my mind. That is one reason I didn’t provide cites (are you listening tdn?) and why I said I’d be open to ignorance-fighting in regard to them. Your post shows her comment to be less offensive and confiscatory than I thought, so in regard to this comment I now view it as less ‘dictatorial’ than I previously did. Congratulations!
HRC is not a socialist. She is not a social democrat. She is not even a liberal. She is a DLC DINO maybe three or four degrees to the left of Bill. Look at her record, not her rhetoric.
Really, how could she be a dictator? What’s she got up her sleeve that W hasn’t already tried?
So then you’re in favor of continuing to let the oil companies operate as a cartel and make record profits at the same time as consumers pay record prices at the gas pump?
That’s not my idea of capitalism. You really want to defend that position?
it would be impossible for any US president to operate either as a “socialist” or as a “dictator” (though W has certainly tried). Suck it up, SA. HRC is probably going to be your next CIC and she can’t be anything but an improvement over what we’ve got now.
The same could be said of a damp dishrag, Dio. Honestly, if you’re going to damn her with such faint praise, I don’t see how you can call yourself a gentleman…
My point is exactly as I laid it out in the OP, as is what I’d allege she’d do…namely strive for a confiscatory, socialistic and quasi-communistic type of government that would provide harsh penalties for anyone daring to try to circumvent it.
Thus I came bearing criticism and vague recollections, asking either that she be pilloried for her quasi-dictatorial stances on these issues, or for ignorance-fighting in regard to my remembered take on them should someone here amongst the knowledgeable Straight Dope population be able to provide it as one can often gain a greater insight or a more persuasive type of argument here than can typically be found through random internet searches.
But you’re saying Hillary’s a potential dictator because she believes Americans should be taxed to support endeavors that are for the good of all. Just which Presidents haven’t been dictators by this standard?
Perhaps, though my fondest hope is that she gains the nomination and gets so thoroughly hammered that she finally gets it through her thick head that the American people just really can’t stand her, and that she slinks off into obscurity ala Jimmy Carter and is scarcely heard from again–although the reality is that in the event of the demise of her presidential ambitions she’ll probably just go on forever as senator from New York, trying to gain as much power from that as she can ala Ted Kennedy and his career.
If you’d started the thread in GD, either John Mace would have shown more restraint, or he’d have gotten smacked by the mods for not doing so. I saw no need to thank him for behavior which is only appropriate in this forum.
I understand, and realize that this board can be a great resource for jogging your memory or getting some info that someone else might have easy access to.
It’s just that you came off as a bit “Do my homework for me so that I don’t have to justify my wild accusations.” Just a bit.
It’s only a minority of Americans who hate her (because they’ve been brainwashed to, not because of anything she’s ever actually done). Bush is actually far more disliked than Hillary is.
