I must admit I’ve never run into anything professionally published that resembles what you’ve described. I guess I was way off on that one. 
Well, one of the best-selling yaoi-in-translation series of 2008 was The Crimson Spell, which is one of the most explicit things in print (utterly NSFW sample, remove NSFW from URL). It’s by Ayano Yamane (of Viewfinder fame, although I’m guessing you haven’t read that either), so it’s got hints of bondage and non-con too. :eek:
Anything published by Kitty Media (an imprint of Media Blasters) is likely to be pretty explicit (it’s their niche; and yes, they published Crimson Spell). Drama Queen put out some really pornographic stuff before folding (although their fan-favorite titles were a lot less so). The bigger publishers (DMP/Blu/Deux) tend to go for “steamy but not explicit”; DMP’s Juné line is the only major imprint that consistently publishes no-sex titles (well, along with the books that Tokyopop releases under their main imprint as opposed to their yaoi-only Blu line).
The symbols that people see tends to reveal more about that person than they do about the art being discussed.
Seeing phaluses everywhere, for example, demonstrates that the person has spent too much time in academic literary circles.
How is it inappropriate for young people interested in sex to channel that interest into the safest sex there is- the kind that’s on paper?
I’m probably incredibly biased- by 14, my friends and I had elaborate slash fic planned or written, mostly involving Remus & Sirius, Percy & Oliver, and Harry & Draco from Harry Potter. Most of what we wrote wasn’t focused on actual sex, because none of us felt talented enough to address the issue, but you can be sure that the day fanfiction.net took away NC-17 fic was a sad one for us.
That was seven years ago, and I can assure you that our obsession with homoerotic fiction has most certainly not led us down the road to “Knockedupsville.” Fantasizing about two guys snogging is not an activity known for its high risk of pregnancy.
Who’s Oliver?
OK… can someone now please explain “bishonen”?
Is that really still true? I thought Freudianism became passé in most places a long time ago. It may have hung on longer in Lit Crit than in psychology, but even so…
(I remember reading a very over-the-top Freudian interpretation of Ibsen’s The <STRIKE>Masturbator</STRIKE> Masterbuilder when I was in college in the '70s, but it had been written some decades earlier than that, I think, and although our teacher had mentioned it, she had certainly not recommended it, or pushed that sort of interpretation.)
And hey, how come I can’t get the struck-out text effect in my post like other people do? I know how to do it in HTML, and I tried several variants here, including using instead of <>, but nothing worked. How is it done?
I think it’s basically just “pretty boy”.
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A fangirl is pretty much a female fan who is deeply involved in a book’s/show’s/whatever’s fandom. So, for instance, I’m a Harry Potter fangirl because I love it and obsess(ed) over it more than can be called healthy. I also sometimes read Harry Potter fanfiction.
And yes, the “stuff” (yaoi, fanfiction, male-male porn, etc.) is perfectly okay for a fourteen year old. As long as it’s not extremely disturbing and gross, I don’t see why it wouldn’t be. It’s acceptable for boys to watch and like porn, so why shouldn’t it be fine for a girl to read/write and like porn? Is it because she likes male-male porn, or just because she’s a girl? I hope that didn’t sound too pissy - I’m not trying to be confrontational, but I’m a teenage girl who likes male-male…stuff (though I’ve never read yaoi and don’t have much interest in it), and it bugs when people give off the vibe that they think we’re at least slightly weird for our ahem interests.
[del]Testing[/del] Well, I thought I tried that combination too. :smack: Thanks.
Now I guess I need to learn how to escape the tags like you did, if I want them to show on screen.
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Captain of the Gryffindor Quidditch team, at least till the 3rd book, when he’s in his 7th year. I think he’s the same age as Percy.
FYI, you can still find some smut on fanfiction.net. Just look for the M rating. 
Oliver Wood, who captained the Gryffindor Quidditch team and is the only other boy we know of in Percy’s year and house.
He’s big and burly and if you believe the movie, Scottish.
ETA: I should really remember to check the second page before I answer questions. But I think my second sentence really adds something.
More that I think about it, it would be absolutely expected for a fourteen year old boy to be interested in naked chicks and porn. A few years ago a mother was lamenting that her fourteen year old was “locked up in his room all day, on the computer, and heavens knows what he does in there!” The SO and I looked at each other and snickered.
I think that situation is way worse than the OP - there are no parental controls whatsoever, the mother has no idea what’s going on, and the kid is allowed to remain locked up in his room all day. Still, there are bigger problems in that household, and the kid hasn’t gotten anyone pregnant.
So why is it so bad when a girl writes porn…after all, generally girls are more inclined to text anyway? No one would be even a little surprised if a 14 YO boy had porn.
I assure you, I have read many fanfics in which two guys snogging leads to pregnancy.
Seriously, the creepiest thing going on in the OP is that not only does her father know she writes porn, but that he feels the need to tell his friends. In what circles is it normal to inform your family friends about your teenager’s masturbatory fantasies? The girl, OTOH, is totally normal. Discount the fanfiction part, and she’s doing something that probably 75% of girls her age are doing. What female among us hasn’t written a story about our crush sweeping us off our feet and into his bed?
That said, there is a LOT of nasty stuff out there, and reading too much of it can probably have some negative effects. I remember discovering fanfiction at thirteen, and one of the first fics I read was an X-files fic where Krychek bent Mulder over his desk and raped him. I think I was a little scarred by that, not because it disturbed me, but because it interested me. I started seeking out non-con (that’s rape fics, for the uninformed), and I was far, FAR too young to be reading that stuff.
I have to completely agree with everything you’ve written in this thread so far, Aanamika.
I was into anime in high school and at lot of my friends were (and some still are) into yaoi stuff. Yaoi is really popular among young girls, and very popular among young lesbians like my friends. It’s the “safest” fantasy to have, for most. I was more into hetero or yuri stuff, but I definitely understand the drive for male-male stories.
And seriously, I wish more parents understood that teenage girls are just as sex-obsessed and hormone-driven as teenage boys. It’s incredibly frustrating for any kid to have raging hormones and no outlet.
For a geeky teen girl who wants a good fantasy, slash fanfic, yaoi manga, doujinshi (fan-drawn comics of licensed characters), yuri manga, etc. are perfectly fine outlets for that drive.
I think at that age I would have been mortified if my parents knew I was into reading or looking at materials of that nature. It’s comforting for a teenage girl to read slash fic written by girls her own age because, not only does it give her good fantasy fodder, but it shows her that she’s not alone in these feelings. Tons of other girls on the internet are into this stuff too; she’s not the only girl out there interested in sex and masturbation. Boys can joke about jacking off, but for girls it seems like they have to pretend they don’t do that kind of thing. Knowing there’s a whole community of girls your age sharing illicit fiction is a big thing to find.
:smack: D’oh!
Thanks for the memory jog, guys. I’ll take your word for it on the fanfic issue.
I do my best to never ever think about mpreg fic. Even at my most yaoi-tastic and slash-oriented, I almost entirely avoided mpreg- and this was with my fandom being Harry Potter at the time, so it took a lot of work.
You mean there alternate universes where Harry Potter is gay and becomes pregnant? I’m not sure I’d want to know the details of that.
Worse, falls in love with Snape when he’s 17, gets impregnated by him, Snape becomes the perfect daddy, Harry becomes a happy housewife, Ron gets jealous, tries to kill Snape and Harry disowns him as a friend because of it, so Ron goes home dejectedly and in an alcoholic haze ends up sleeping with his twin brothers who choose to sleep with him out of love and pity.
Okay, I’m not in Harry Potter fandom so I haven’t actually read a fic like what I described above, but I’ve seen a lot of similar stuff in my fandoms.
And if that doesn’t explain why the OP shouldn’t take it seriously, I don’t know what will…