Tell me tales of San Diego! (a standard-issue vacation advice thread)

Since time anon, I’ve been promising my father that one of these days, I’d take him on a trip to his home city of San Diego. He hasn’t been back for over 25 years, and I’ve never been further west than Texas. Also since time anon, I’ve come up with reasons not to do this…money, work, obligations, all the usual suspects.

But no more! About a month ago, in a moment of capriciousness, I said “screw it”, and now here I sit with plane tickets, hotel and car reservations, and — perhaps most importantly for a father-son bonding trip — two tickets to see the San Diego Chargers take on the Denver Broncos at Qualcomm Stadium. Monday Night Football? Check. Division rivalry? Check. GO BOLTS!

So, it looks like it’s happening. We’ll be in SD from Saturday, 10/17, to Wednesday, 10/21. The only thing left to figure out…is everything else.

That is, I have not the first clue what one does in San Diego, and my father’s information is a few decades out of date. Apart from the game, we’re checking out his old haunts in Santee to see which of them are now strip malls, hitting up the zoo, checking out the sights of La Jolla…and there ends my master plan. When it comes to destination advice, the Dope has never failed me before, so now I turn to you again. What can two adventurous souls find to do with five days in the real vacation capital of SoCal? Daytime sights, nightlife spots, cool places to walk around; it’s all fair game, and we’ve got nothing but time. Thanks in advance for any advice.

(Oh, and don’t let the parent-child dynamic limit your suggestions…we’re really more like best friends, and no stranger has ever taken us for father and son at first glance.) :smiley:

I love San Diego, we always stay in Mission Beach, it’s a peninsula between the bay and the ocean, kinda funky. Lots of variety in people, architecture and stores. Gorgeous beach; you should take some surfing lessons

Go down to Broadway Pier-look at the maritime museum, the cruise ships, and the Midway aircraft carrier. Hop on the ferry to Coronado Island. It’s cheap, maybe 15-20 minutes, and you’ll be able to see the skyline from a different angle. Coronado Island is ok to bum around on for an hour or so, then hop on the ferry to come back.

There’s a little perfect beach in La Jolla, it’s tucked around a corner of Ellen Browning Scripps Park. Even has a little cave. There’s a wild seal area south of there, next park down, and you can watch the surfers risk their life against the rocks.

We did Sea World last time, and although I thought it was expensive, it was worth it, nice size park, good shows, kids liked it. Don’t need to do it again any time soon, but a good experience.

I haven’t made it to Balboa Park yet, but that is a must see by all accounts. ~15 different museums, gardens, and the zoo.

Gas lamp district
Coronado

Thanks! I’m writing all this down; keep 'em coming. One thing I forgot to mention is where we’re staying…downtown, at the Porto Vista in Little Italy, a couple blocks from the harbor. I haven’t checked yet to see exactly what’s in walking distance, but I figured that a central downtown location will serve us well for going out on the town at night.

Speaking of which, how’s traffic in the downtown area on the weekends? Any particular routes we should take/avoid to get from the airport to the hotel (Columbia Street)?

Seaport Village for your daily allotment of San Diego crap. Eat at Buster’s. Hit Old Town for Mexican.

Little Italy is a good choice - some nice restaurants plus you’re close to the light rail and the highway both. I’m Italian-American, and the Pizza Grotto is the kind of restaurant I grew up with - lots of comfort food, not fancy.

I always get fish tacos when I visit, which hasn’t been for a while. There is a raging debate about which place in town has the best - I generally avoid arguments and sample one from each.

You’ll want to visit the Gaslamp for sure. It has changed dramatically in the 25 years since he’s been away. Great place to do for dinner. It’s a little ways from Little Italy, but not too far. As long as you’re in the Gaslamp area, you should show him PetCo park as well.

It’s a bit expensive, but I would highly recommend the Sunday brunch at the Hotel Del Coronado. You won’t need to eat the rest of the day !

If you’re into gambling, there are lots of indian casinos all about 30 to 60 minutes away from Little Italy.

We had a few free night at a hotel in San Diego, so we went two weeks ago. We visited the Wild Animal Park, and it turned out to be a perfect time, since the kids were in school and it was too early for tour groups. No lines anywhere, even for lunch at 12:30. I’m not sure which I like better.
The tigers were hiding, but the mama lion was sleeping right up against the glass, so close you could see the bottom of her paws.

Balboa park is great. I particularly like the Air and Space Museum. I thought Mexican food in Old Town was wonderful when I lived in New Jersey, but now I live in California I don’t think it is all that special. However there is a good Cajun restaurant in the Gaslamp district. It’s been a while since I was there, but I used to live in SW Louisiana, so I’m a bit pickier about Cajun food than most.

I took my husband on a biplane ride along the coast and I highly recommend that as something unique and two person thing you will remember for a long time.

I’m sure your father’s already told you, but just in case: Is there anything in Santee other than strip malls? (And the women’s prison?)

As for daytime sights, try a drive to the Cabrillo monument, going through Ft. Rosecrans military cemetery. (Check its hours to make sure the old lighthouse is open when you go there.) On the way or back, there’s a public beach that’s so obscure it’s essentially private for those that know about it, and who are almost exclusively folks from the neighborhood. (Send a PM for directions.)

As for Old Town, I know that place pretty well, since as a teenager I worked for four years in one of its more well-known (Mexican) restaurants, which my step-mother owns. (Being from West Texas, you’re probably not looking for Mexican food while in San Diego anyway, and there’s no reason why you’d have to go to Old Town for it, but it wouldn’t be my former workplace there that I’d recommend.) Instead, go to the Old Town Mexican Café, which you might try for lunch before the game. While there, if you’re interested in the historical stuff in the state park, I’d recommend Campo Santo, the oldest European cemetery in the state (which is not actually in the park, but a block or two from OTMC). The cemetery itself was moved about 30 feet, so the actual graves are underneath San Diego Ave. and its sidewalk (with markers), but you can see the gravestones etc. nearby. There’s also a good museum across the street from the trolley (which will show you how similar the city’s history is to that of west Texas, in that it was a cattle-ranching economy). I’d say all of this would be preferable to enduring that annoying mutation of the human species known as Charger fans, who congregate in the parking lot of Qualcom before each game to tailgate.

When you go to La Jolla, include a drive up to the top of Mt. Soledad if it’s a clear day on the coast, and it usually is in Oct. Before you go you might want to read about the eternal and pointless controversy regarding the cross up there.

And if you visit Coronado, by all means check out the Hotel del, but don’t eat there. Save some money and have a better lunch across the street at Vino’s café, in the Hotel Cordova.

Some here have recommended the Gaslamp, but with all due respect, I wouldn’t put it very high on my list. Don’t be fooled by its would-be, pseudo-historical Main Street Disneyland style name. The only history belonging to the Gaslamp is that when your father left San Diego its most useful purpose was to provide sailors with prostitutes and tattoos. The city boosterists (who are constantly throwing money at their developer friends) convinced the city that it had some kind of historic value, so they closed down the flop houses, threw out the whores, spruced up the buildings, and now tourists flock there because because their tour guides tell them to. You can spend your money on over-priced and over-rated, corporate-owned restaurants and nightclubs anywhere in the country, and—unless you have a specific recommendation from a personal source–there isn’t any particular reason why you need to do so in the Gaslamp, unless there’s a theater nearby you’re going to anyway.

Instead, you might consider a night in Pacific Beach, which is more organic and less a tourist trap. Check it out on Saturday night: look into the live music there (in the local weekly), and get a designated driver or take a cab from Little Italy to check out whatever various places might interest you. (Just keep your eyes off of women who “belong” to other guys.)

As for Balboa Park, go there on Tuesday afternoon and evening. A quarter of the museums will have free entrance (find out which ones in advance), and by that time the Haunted Trail will be open for the Halloween season.

And if your Wednesday afternoon is free, go to Ocean Beach during the weekly farmers’ market, just to see that the city doesn’t consist entirely of bleached blondes and fat guys in shorts and tank-tops. There you can have lunch at the café on the pier, or at Poma’s Italian sandwich shop, and happily ignore the food on the plane back to Texas.

My wife and I spent last Christmas in San Diego in the Gaslight district. We spent the entire week just there–and loved it. Lots of good restaurants and lots of day and night life as well.

You will love it there, at least we did. We stayed at the Hard Rock Hotel and just walked out everyday in the general area. It was nice–there wasn’t any areas we didn’t feel safe in. No car–it was great, quick taxi ride from the airport. We just walked everywhere, got to drink whatever we wanted and then stumbled back to our hotel.

Next time we go we plan on going to Coronado and Balboa Park as I hear those are nice as well. Years ago I was up in the La Jolla area and liked that as well. San Diego is just a nice city overall and I am sure you will have a great time.

There’s actually a farmers market on Saturdays in Little Italy, so you don’t even need to leave the area to see one - though Ocean Beach can be a nice place to go anyway - I recommend a hamburger from Hodad’s.

As for Pacific Beach on Saturday night? I’m not sure I’d bother, as presumably you are both over the age of 25? Again, PB is not bad for a look, but it’s not particularly my thing on weekend nights, but I guess it depends on what kind of nightlife you like.

I’m fond of the North Park area, particularly all that’s going on near University and 30th. There are some neat restaurants (and I have to plug The Linkery since it’s my favorite) and would be a nice place to grab a mean and/or a beer.

Oh, forgot about this- had a great steak for a reasonable price on the ocean. Highly recommend.

http://www.worldfamous.signonsandiego.com/

Okay, after looking it up, I retract my question about routes to get from the airport to Little Italy…it’s a five-minute drive down Harbor. Hell, it’d probably be a nice walk if we didn’t have luggage.

That leaves me with one last specific question…any special advice as to what to do regarding game day? The game is Monday at 5:30, so unless we show up ridiculously early, I’m assuming that both traffic routes and public transportation from downtown to Mission Valley are likely to be pretty congested. Anybody have any tips?

Also, we might not actually be averse to the “show up ridiculously early” option if there’s anything to see/do within walking distance of Qualcomm. My father says that in his day it was surrounded by houses on one side and mostly nothing on the other, and it looks like that might still be true. Any good hanging-out spots nearby that won’t be overrun with Charger fans?

Once again, thanks to everyone for the advice thus far! It’s been a great help in budgeting our time in the city.

Take the trolley. There’s a station in Little Italy, and one at the stadium. It will be full of people going to the game, but it’s a short ride.

It also stops (transfers, actually) in Old Town, so you can eat there, as I suggested above. Around the stadium there’s nothing of interest within convenient walking distance, because the parking lot itself makes the stadium an isolated place. There are places to hang out before and after the stadium station, though.

Balboa park is a must. Be sure to check out the iconic botanical garden with the giant koi pond. Lots of fun museums.

I’ve always been fond of the aquarium at the scripps institute. There’s a nice section of beach just a short walk from the aquarium as well. There were some pretty good tide pools last time I was there.

Mild Hijack:

Can anyone tell me if they still have the living history display in the Museum of Man that makes tortillas? They were stone ground, cooked over a wood fire and absolutely delicious. I grew up in the area and have always meant to go back but I never seem to make it. Now it’s probably been 30 years and I have no idea if they still have the display or of it’s any good.

We went to a Chargers game in 2007, having visited the zoo the day before and spent the night in a hotel. This was a Sunday afternoon game (1:00 kickoff).

On the advice of a friend, we checked out of the hotel and drove to Old Town, parking in the Trolley Park-and-Ride lot at Congress and Taylor. We had breakfast at a restaurant in Old Town and then took the trolley over the Qualcomm. That worked very well - there’s a trolley station right there in the stadium parking lot.

Leaving tried our patience a bit. The line to get on a westbound trolley was 45 minutes long, by our watches - and we were hot, hungry, and thirsty. We got back eventually, but that was the only downside to the whole arrangement.

We have not done it again, although we’re considering it. Separate queues are formed at the station for east- and westbound trolleys, and the eastbound line looked much shorter - when it existed at all. We will consider finding a park-and-ride lot to the east somewhere, but I don’t know that there’s as much cool pre-game stuff to do out that way as compared to Old Town to the west.

We often head down to San Diego for the day to hit the Zoo, and one of the places we like to eat dinner is Cafe Coyote in Old Town. Go there directly when the zoo closes and you beat the dinner rush, even on a Saturday. :slight_smile:

The aircraft carrier down on the waterfront is a really neat tour - I second that one.

Re: “Free Tuesdays” at the Balboa Park Museums–I think they’ve changed it. Only residents/military and family members get in free now.

My recommendation for dining in Old Town is El Agave. It’s pricier than most of the other places, but I think it’s worth it. It’s not a chips & salsa/taco & burrito place–they serve more “authentic” (whatever that means these days) regional dishes. Oh, and their tequila selection is probably the largest in San Diego.

During low tides, some of the best tidepools are at the south end of La Jolla shores. Also, during low tides, you can walk north past Scripps Pier and see a cool funicular cable car that runs down to a little beach house at the base of the bluffs. Looks like the best time during your visit will be after 3PM.

Check the San Diego Readerfor listings and reviews of restaurants and upcoming events.

I’d say … in no particular order …

Gaslamp District
Old Town
Balboa Park
Cabrillo National Monument
La Jolla
Mission Beach & Pacific Beach Boardwalk