Terminator Salvation release date

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[QUOTE=Ranchoth]
Add to that…technically, Skynet didn’t attack the U.S.: Russia did (after Skynet attacked them). If Skynet is willing to hold off on the wanton human exterminating for awhile, survivors might help it willingly—by convincing them that, as a legitimate government agent (Agency? Program?), it’s only trying to help get things back in order. And it only needs to build labor/kill bots and [del]death[/del] refugee [del]slave labor[/del] reconstruction centers in the interest of public safety, and domestic security.
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Well, it ignores the problems of time and resources. Practically speaking, it can’t be done. People were already on the shortwave saying that basically, you need to get out of likely-dangerous areas NOW. Dense urban centers couldn’t be full evacuated, but many suburban and rural areas would be fairly safe and could continue as before. The idea that Skynet could control them is pretty unlikely. And how will it communicate? It just blew up its own communications network, and the vast, vast majority of its brainpower.

But of course, if this were “actual practical land” it couldn’t have happened even granting the killer super-AI. There is no one system which can or could control even a few of the U.S. nuke arsenal. Skynet is an evil sorcerer; the terminators are basically golems.

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Skynet could have spared a few technologically advanced countries like Japan or China. I think I remember Sarah Conner saying 3 billion people died…well, that’s half the population give or take. If Skynet offs the North & South America, Africa, Europe, and western Asia and leave most of China, Japan, and possibly India to survive and enslave. The fallout would suck, but you know, they could just do a cut scene with something like “x years later” where most remaining humans are building Skynet resources. Just throwing out ideas here. Fuck it, let’s just write the damn thing ourselves!

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[QUOTE=smiling bandit]
Well, it ignores the problems of time and resources. Practically speaking, it can’t be done. People were already on the shortwave saying that basically, you need to get out of likely-dangerous areas NOW. Dense urban centers couldn’t be full evacuated, but many suburban and rural areas would be fairly safe and could continue as before. The idea that Skynet could control them is pretty unlikely.
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How so? I’m talking after the bombs fall—the major cities are gone, the government(s) are wiped out, along with most of the military, and half of humanity is dead. (And with a full nuclear exchange between the nuclear powers, I think “fairly safe” is going to be fairly relative.)

You’re going to have a lot—relatively speaking, again—of scared, panicked people who’ve just lost most of the infrastructure for modern life. What do they have? Scattered bands of CD officials on shortwave, including one joker who may be claiming that NORAD started the war itself, to kill all humans. If Skynet can use it’s limited resources (Kill-Bots, proto-terminators, etc) to set up some sort of “benign” presence in an area with a useful number of survivors (Camp Skynet?), it would just need to lure in enough humans to build an automated industrial base for itself. Surviving radio, having enough of the only lights visible on the horizon in a world gone otherwise black, or even human runners or “world of mouth” might do to spurr (relative) mass migrations of survivors to places where they could be corralled for use.

Hey, after you’re huddling in a ditch after the world got nuked for no apparent reason, and a big scary robot shows up with a sign reading “National Guard—Come with Me if you Want to Live” strung around it’s neck, waving a can of peaches—possibly with promises of more to come, and a dry box to sleep on where you won’t be gnawed on by rats as much, if you help the “reconstruction forces” set up shop—you’re probably going to join in the procession of walking dead following it.

True, the T3 vision of “Skynet-as-an-internet-ghost” makes any post-apocalypse survival more difficult than the T1-T2 “Skynet-as-a-giant-brain-in-a-mountain-fortress,” but for the events of T3 to take place, Skynet must have some means planned of continuing it’s existence in something resembling a competant state, or else Judgement Day merely becomes a grandiose murder-suicide plot.

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Update,

it seems there are 2 films planned after T: Salvation, at least this BBC article says Bale has signed up for 3. I must admit I don’t have confidence that they can make 3 good films. How much flogging can this franchise take?

BBC Link

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[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers]
Update,

it seems there are 2 films planned after T: Salvation, at least this BBC article says Bale has signed up for 3. I must admit I don’t have confidence that they can make 3 good films. How much flogging can this franchise take?
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It depends on if the style of Terminator: The Animated Series features resistence members always miraculously escaping their vehicles before they explode; or if it has a T-1000 pull a face fault more than once per episode.

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Been awhile since this thread saw any action, but seeing as how the first trailer has debuted online and will reportedly be attached to The Dark Knight, I figured I’d let those interested know. I’ve learned to try curbing my skepticism a bit more about films before I’ve even seen a single frame, and while there’s a lot of controversy behind McG helming this fourth film, I think it has a nice look based on the few brief snippets of footage seen in the teaser. Just wait 'til you see the updated T1 … it looks mean as hell.

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]
I like Bale, but the McG connection is a little worrisome.
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To say the least. This is the man who managed to make 90 minutes of three gorgeous women running around in skimpy clothing nigh-unbearable to watch.

Twice.

First one was good, second one was great, third one was…whatever it was. Fourth one, we’ve lost Arnie and gained McG. This cannot possibly bode well. As much as I used to love the Terminator series and storyline, I only have so much hope to go around, and I’m afraid I can’t justify using any on this.

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Well, it has a decent cast and I always like Christian Bale. And they at least used the original Brad Fidel “da-dum da-dadum” theme. It’s always a bad sign when they have a perfectly good theme for a movie franchise and they use some nu-metal crap in the trailer (I’m looking at you Rambo).

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Anyone ever see the deleted “Sergeant Candy” deleted scene from T3?

yeah, Arnold’s role in this franchise is OVER.