Cite? I should be dead about ten time over then. I’ve taken some nasty falls off ladders, roofs, and even some ceiling joists and never even caught a broken bone. Then factor in the numerous times I took a deliberate fall in martial arts classes and the numbers should be catching up to me. Dirt is pretty soft from that height. Of course you hear all the time about people breaking legs etc…Looks to me like he fell straight backwards, landed on some springy stuff, and did so flat out, which is just about as perfect of a breakfall as you can execute without deliberately doing so.
From googling it seems like you are talking about characters from one of the Stargate shows. I know I am giving up major geek cred, but I have never watched those!
Seems like the leader man (don’t remember his name) on this series is kind of a psycho. I will not be surprised if we find out he has a dark side and the “sixers” are actually going to turn out to be the heroes of the piece.
When I saw Rene Ecchheveria and Brannon Braggart on the opening titles, my heart sank. Who in their right mind would let these guys ever work again? All they need is Berman and they can have a total crapfest!
All of those dudes did some good work in their time, I’ll admit, but they are fucking burned out. Come on, Mr. Spielberg, are you seriously telling me that you are going to let the guys who finally ran Trek into the ground helm your new flagship SF show?
How could it be any worse? Add Summer Glau to the cast? Where is the vomiting smilie when you need it.
We need some new blood. Or just fuck it all. Have they done a big screen remake of “I Dream of Jeannie” yet? Yeah. Go with that.
Yeah, that is the smallest problem in this show. I was more concerned with the REALLY bad cgi of the centipede in that scene. In the first cut it didn’t even look like the background plate was moving at all, like they just animated over a still of his hand. Which is another small problem in a show laden with problems. Even so, the poor quality of that shot was kind of jarring in a show that really tries to push the limit of what can be done on a TV budget. That is one thing I will give them kudos for. It is without a doubt the most ambitious VFX show ever done for television.
Being a CGI artist myself, I will reserve my comments on the VFX until I get a higher resolution copy of the show. I screened a fairly low def version earlier tonight and even then, some of the stuff looked pretty weak.
The dino motion was very unrealistic. The physics are just way off. Huge dinos turning their heads back and forth as quick as little chickens. Big creatures move in a more ponderous fashion. Save the quick movements for this little creature and I will be happy!
Pro wrestlers routinely fall from higher than he was up on that fence. Watching the scene all I could think was “oh, he knows how to fall and took that bump well, he’ll be fine”
It’s not the fall, it’s the sudden stop.
That cite suffers from a lack of banding. Eleven feet or more encompasses, well, every height greater than 11 feet i.e. 50 feet, 500 feet, 5000 feet and so on. I imagine the mortality rate for 50+ feet is pretty much 100. Kinda brings up the average for the 11 feet to infinity band.
From a more precise survey:
Falls from a height are a major cause of accidental death in urban children. The medical and social data on 61 children admitted over the last decade for falls of one or more stories were reviewed. Seventy-seven percent of the children survived. Of the children who fell three stories or less, all survived (100%). Fifty percent mortality occurred between the fifth and sixth floors.
Yeah, I guess he was talking about all the roving cyborg rape gangs or something. I wasn’t clear on that.
That is just a safety sheet citing another study from 1956 that I cannot locate.
I take all your points, but the Government of Alberta has this to say;
(3 meters being roughly 10 feet). Jim says, “The legislation was changed from 12 feet to 10 feet in 2002 because too many people were dying from 12 foot falls.” He also mentions that OSHA in the US has six feet as its standard for tying off for construction work.
I’m not trying to argue that no one has ever survived a 10 foot fall; just that a fall like Daddy Stupidhead took in the show would have been a serious fall, with death as a likely result.
Except it’s not a likely result. It’s a possible result, but it definitely depends on how you land and the way he landed was the best possible sort of landing and unlikely to do anything except make him sore for a little while. It’s not like he was 20 stories up and landed on his head.
Dammit! I thought I had won this thread!
Why was the way he landed the best possible sort of landing? There are worse ways, I agree, but that was hardly the best.
It looked like he fell 3-4 metres at least and landed directly on his back, which I am pretty sure is not the way to survive a fall. No shock absorption apart from some branches which - depending on their hardness - could actually increase the chance of injury. The back of his skull would have been cracked open a split second after he hit his spine.
Falls hurt people. You can quite easily break bones falling over just your own two feet, never mind from a considerable height that deposits you on your spinal column. Falling “a few floors” will kill or severely injure most fallers (and let’s leave exceptional subjects like martial artists or stunt men out of the discussion if we could). Children are a different case, being lighter and endowed with more flexible bones, and data about them would not be very useful when discussing adults falling.
Not quite correct. Falling flat on your back, arms spread is a classic “back breakfall” and the most common and safe way to land unless you manage to whip your skull into a hard surface upon landing.
HERE is video of WWE (annoying music at 30 sec or so) ladder matches. the first minute or so will show lots of men falling from far higher than that safely. They do this routinely, and while trained stuntmen, the principle really is the same. I don’t doubt that a fall from even a small height is capable of seriously harming a person. I just doubt that statistic. if it is was true, these guys, movie stuntmen, myself, and pretty much every person who ever took a serious martial art should be crippled or dead by now.
Hey, the nerdy kid in JP got hit with 10000 volts and blown off a 20’ wall and still sat up with a pithy one-liner. A grown man should handle a pitiful 10’ fall.
I like how the dead Pterosaur that Science Guy collected had all the realism of a Holloween prop.
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One complaint I had that hasn’t been mentioned: The ‘meteoric iron’ looked to be blue and white crystals, somewhat like quartz. It should be black, most likely. Maybe brown or gray. But not blue and white. And not crystalline.
one of my wife’s complaints (there were many!): wasn’t the dad all sick and coughing in prison in the future? “They didn’t get you a rebreather” or something similar the wife said… Then, seemingly right after he escapes and gets to the past, he’s running and jumpin on TN without a care in the world. I know, fresh air and all, but I’d imagine there would be some lung damage after 2 straight years of breathing contaminated air…
I know of a person who fell from the proscenium above a stage at my High School onto a hard wooden floor. The fall was around 30 feet. He survived, but his spleen jellified and he had to have it removed. Surviving the fall depicted in the show is believable. But he probably would have required medical attention, and not just been able to get up and be about his business.