Tesla Model 3 anticipation thread

This is my understanding from reading stuff and doing research. A typical dryer outlet is 30amps (a NEMA 14-30), so the mobile charger, which comes with the car, and the wall charger can charge the car at 24amps. With a 50amp plug (NEMA 14-50) the mobile charger is limited to 32amps, but the wall charger should be able to do 40amps. I might be a bit off on the exact amperages, but the idea is correct—the mobile charger has a lower maximum than the wall charger.

The other advantage with the wall charger is that two can be installed and share a single 30 or 50 amp connection. They will communicate and maximize charging two cars, either splitting the current, or none to the full one, etc.

Also, if you have a reason to carry the mobile charger with you all the time, then it isn’t too much more to get the wall charger than a second mobile charger.

IIRC red paint is a total pain in the ass due to how much pigment it requires

It’s not a problem for the rest of the planet so Musk needs to hire someone who can handle the job. Or hire someone who can hire that person.

yeah, I assume the paint suppliers (almost entirely PPG and Axalta) know what they’re doing when they formulate these coatings. the amount of pigment in the blend affects how you need to apply it, and that’s on the end user (paint shop at the assembly plant.)

It’s Elon’s headbutt that really signifies that the car is ready for completion. It’s like Proved Plate for the 21st century!

I moved pickup to today (Labor Day). Tomorrow, the original pickup day, would have been 888 days since I made my initial reservation ahead of the unveiling.
Garage is cleaned, old car is sold, mobile charger wall mount is printing, what else do I need to do?

Sweet! Got the phone app installed and signed in?

Good day for pickup, as traffic was so light we arrived 20+ minutes before the appointment, so we waited a bit while people were probably at lunch. Delivery was easy and not rushed. We got a walk through of everything, but it was mostly stuff I knew. Build quality seems fine. I guess it’s all not perfect, but since I’ve been paying attention, neither is any other car I see. The only factory fault we found is a small paint inclusion on the front bumper. There was also a paint chip on the front fender where it meets the door. Those were noted, and I’ll get fixed whenever I have a reason to go down there again.

The car is great to drive, and is incredibly fast. I haven’t even had the opportunity to go full throttle yet. Unfortunately we’re busy this evening, so my idea of getting dinner in Nederland or someplace in Gilpin county will have to wait for another day.
Some random thoughts:

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[li]Close the center console gently![/li][li][COLOR=Black]I still wish it had cooled seats[/COLOR][/li][li][COLOR=Black]The audio sounds too good. I kept looking for the stanced car that was thumping.[/COLOR][/li][li][COLOR=Black]Rear visibility is worse than I’m used to[/COLOR][/li][li][COLOR=Black]Front visibility is fantastic[/COLOR][/li][li][COLOR=Black]Did I mention it’s fast[/COLOR][/li][li][COLOR=Black]Yeah, no, faster than that[/COLOR][/li][li][COLOR=Black]The minimum maximum speed is 50MPH. I’ll have to look into valet mode before offering test drives[/COLOR][/li][li][COLOR=Black]My phone doesn’t fit with the case on. I expected that would happen, and will probably do some kind of wireless charger[/COLOR][/li][li][COLOR=Black]My wife’s iphone with a thin case fits fine[/COLOR][/li][li][COLOR=Black]I can turn it on in the garage with the door closed, and not die[/COLOR][/li][/ul]
More to come. I have to go program the garage door opener, and assign it a static IP, as one does.

Heh. Took me a couple of tries to get it right and had the display warn me. I wonder what kind of sensor they have in there…

Another amusing warning (that I only saw when letting others drive my car) is “do not press the brake and accelerator at the same time”. Finally, a car that nags people against this bad habit.

Of course. It’s incredibly annoying when the DHCP lease on my car expires, leaving me at the mercy of Windows name resolution.

It’s a little odd that the majority of devices on my home network are light bulbs, switches, a car, a litterbox, a seismometer, etc. “Computers” are a tiny minority.

Congrats on the new car, and glad you like it! I was also very impressed with the audio, and think it gets less attention than it should.

Not really apropos for a new car, but I remember a used car salesman telling me that he loved how younger buyers cranked the stereo up during test drives, potentially masking troublesome sounds.

  • Did something just fall off the car?
  • No, no, that was just the bass drop. Let me crank up this Skrillex some more…

My BMW had a weird defect in the sound system–certain frequencies made a really unpleasant buzz. Most songs were fine, but every so often I hit one that tickled a crossover or hit some resonant frequency or something and just made this horrific sound. Had to take it to the dealer a few times to get it fixed.

The one defect I’ve found in the Tesla system is that very rarely, when playing from the USB stick, some songs will make a kind of crackling sound. Pausing and unpausing the music makes it go away. I think it’s a bug in whatever open-source music decoder library they’re using. It’s so rare (maybe one in a thousand songs) that it’s not a huge annoyance, but it’s there.

Also happens to me with regular streaming/slacker radio, approximately one time a week. Pausing/unpausing always fixes it.

I’ve had the car a few more days, and I think my initial impressions still hold. As somebody else said, regardless of what you think of Tesla as a company or Musk as a celebrity CEO, this is a fantastic car. I know many of these features are available on other cars, but no review ever says “the A4 has great seats, but so does a C class, so we’re not giving the A4 credit.” I’m talking about the Model 3.

The electric drive train is superb. The amount of power available at any speed is wonderful, and it is completely effortless. I drove a manual for 135,000 miles. It was fun the whole time. This is different, but not boring the way an automatic might be. Power delivery is instant, which is what people always say about electrics, but just reading or watching a video about it doesn’t do it justice.

The automated stuff is very well integrated into the car and it feels like a cohesive product, not a bunch of different technologies just stuck together.

Set the cruise control at 65, and the car goes 65. Up a hill: 65, down a hill: 65, until there is a slow car in front, then it sorts it out. Change lanes to get around the slow car: back to 65.

Regenerate to nearly a full stop, then step on the brake “Hold” comes up, and you’re off the pedals until the light changes.

The auto wipers just worked. They also work well as wipers, but that might just be new blades and smooth glass.

Get in and go, get out and walk away are good. I turned off the horn on locking, so I keep having to look behind and make sure the mirrors folded in. Maybe I’ll turn the horn back on, though I do think it’s obnoxious.

Believe people when they say the speedometer location is fine. It took me maybe five miles of incorrectly looking through the steering wheel to stop even thinking about it. My eyes know where to go, and the numbers are big and clear enough to not require much attention.

I’m perfectly happy with the included slacker radio. It’s fine. I marked a bunch of genres, channels, and artists as favorites, and then just put it on the play my favorites channel.

The geo-based garage door opening works really well. Pulling in and out of my driveway the door just opens and closes. Going to my inlaws, the garage door button appears on the screen, but doesn’t auto open, which is exactly what I want.

Here are bunch of things I don’t like, because stuff that bothers you sticks out. None of these are deal breakers or make me regret getting the car.

The rear visibility is poor. This is when driving, not backing up. Backing is fine. It’s a big window, but it’s pointed up at the sky. I’ve had cars get lost below my rear view mirror. I know, one tap to view the camera, but it looks too low to be a useful rear view mirror replacement.

A car at this price point should have ventilated seats. The seats are otherwise comfortable and supportive. I guess I just have a sweaty back.

The screen is a great interface, when the car is stopped. I find myself not doing things like adjusting the mirrors or the vent when driving, because I don’t want to give the screen that much attention. The big vent looks cool, but I’d much rather some simple manual louvered holes. It works fine, but like I said, it’s very difficult to tweak where the air is going while driving. It’s not that it takes more than two or three taps to get to the adjustments, it’s that I can’t do it out of my peripheral vision. Perhaps with more use I’ll be able to.

The voice commands seem limited: “Adjust the left mirror” “???”; “Switch to phone audio” “???”; “Make it colder” “???”; “Navigate home” works.

Finally, here are some things I’d like to see added. I guess the normal way to request this is to tweet @elonmusk.

Link the mirror auto-folding to the garage door geo fence. When the garage door is opened (entering area) fold the mirrors. When the garage door is closed (leaving the area) unfold the mirrors. Or give the mirrors their own fence.

A bunch of other stuff I’ve already scene discussed, like an integrated dash cam, stream live video to the app, etc.

IPv6 support.

Yeah, right now voice commands are limited to something like:

Play: Music/Artist/Song
Navigate to: Address/Home/Work/Business Name
Call: Phone Contact

No things like voice texting, “open garage door/ gate X” (yeah, I know you can geofence it to home, but I’m wary of flaky GPS signals causing it to open/close at random), or the other stuff you mentioned. But I’m expecting some of that to come with eventual software updates.

Elon Musk interview on Joe Rogan, it might be of interest to this thread and OP: Joe Rogan Experience #1169 - Elon Musk - YouTube

Listened to that last night. Pretty typical Elon stuff: AI, simulation talk, electric planes, etc. Hardly touched on Tesla or SpaceX at all. A little awkward in the first half hour but gets better later on, at least if you like this kind of rambling conversation (that’s more on Rogan than Musk, here).

The market didn’t like something, though whether it was Elon toking a bit or some Tesla executive departures I couldn’t say. Probably just some latent pessimism waiting for a trigger. I do find this mock outrage about Musk smoking the devil’s lettuce on live video a bit weird.

Dude. A CEO should not be smoking weed on camera. It’s bad imagery and he really should know that. It’s an incredibly boneheaded move and reflects poorly on his judgment.

Having your chief accounting officer resign after a month - that’s bad too. They really need a COO that knows their shit.

Mock outrage, then. No one *actually *cares if an adult smokes a bit of MJ in a state where it’s legal. But somehow the imagery is bad, because some hypothetical other person might see it and be outraged. Also weird that no one cares about the whiskey drinking, even though alcohol is a much harder drug than MJ.

I agree that the board needs to find a COO. They’ve said they’re working on it.

If Tim Cook was seen smoking weed once, it would be a tabloid story and not much more.

The context of Elon acting increasingly like a maniac is the important part. I personally think a substance abuse problem is likely in play, and I think quite a few people are thinking the same, so people watching him getting high is of course a problem.

they do when that “adult” is playing with billions of dollars of other people’s money and has been acting increasingly erratic and maliciously.