Wow, if he even wins Rhode Island, this is a real death knell for Clinton.
I think what trumped experience and change both was “being done with this thing.”
I’m surprised that the news networks weren’t polling people then. Would have made an easy story.
Exit polling is notoriously inaccurate anyway, isn’t it?
IIRC, polling of early voters has already been tabulated at 50 Clinton to 48 Obama.
Only at predicting Diebold results.
Did anyone see Michael Barone on Fox a couple of minutes ago? He seemed drunk. He was stumbling iver his words and he called Obama “Oba-mama.”
<deep breath>
Right, no panic. I’ll start my commute, and when I get home, there’ll be better news. That’s the ticket…
The Ohio numbers are from select precincts in rural areas, where Clinton has been doing well. Cleveland and Columbus (because of OSU) will more than make up for it. Knock on whatever.
I’m not gonna panic until there’s 1% of the votes counted.
Then I’ll panic, even if Obama is winning, because panicking is fun.
Um… I also notice that the Ohio numbers showing up right now are only for about 3,500 people.
Deep breaths!
I sure hope you stuck around to look at the Texas numbers! 60-39, with a piddling 0% reporting. Must be early votes.
Yes, deep breaths, honey. CBS has Hillary ahead 56% vs 42%, but the vote spread is only 500 votes, and in the delegate column, he’s ahead, 32 to 28!
Better yet, in Texas at the moment, it’s Obama 60%, Clinton 39%.
And he wiped the slate clean with her in Vermont. Even if she wins Ohio, it won’t be enough. Not enough popular votes, not enough pledged delegates and not enough wins to call it “momentum”.
Shayna, you seem to be operating under the impression that actual data need support what the Clinton camp claims to be an enormous sea change. I’m not convinced that they’ll need anything more than a 1% “victory” in Ohio with a tie (or short deficit) in delegates.
The sheer numbers of Dem voters, just watching the news, are looking amazing in Texas. Should the eventual nominee retain the goodwill of a good portion of his/her opponent’s supporters, Texas would require some serious attention from McCain.
This is all very exciting.
MSNBC is not paying much attention to “The Math” and are paying much more attention to the momentum.
CNN seems to be paying a lot more attention to the math. Which I think is totally silly because the time for momentum is kind of over. She’ll need a shitload of momentum for it to make a difference when there’s only 600 some-odd delegates left.
Also, when did Lester Holt get glasses? He looks so goofy
True, of course.
But actually, I’m operating under a little bit of insider information. The bossman attended an small event last night, and I’m sorry to say that I’m not comfortable naming names in this forum, so I’m sure I’ll be dismissed by some, but the word from some people high up in the Democratic party is that if she doesn’t win Texas convincingly, as well as winning Ohio, party leaders are going to have a conversation with her about stepping down.
Not that I expect her to do so, of course.
It’s so absurd. Obama was down 20 percentage points a few weeks ago and may potentially win it, except now some media outlets want it be a Hillary surge. Isn’t it far more sensational how far he’s come in such a short period of time? That seems like a more interesting story.
Exit polling has always been extremely accurate, except in 2004.
(In case anyone thinks this is tongue-in-cheek, I’m completely serious. It’s been shown to predict actual results quite well, but for some reason in 2004 the polls in OH, among other places, were a fair amount off from the end totals.)
Indeed.
I’m keeping the tube off until midnight.
Deep breaths Shayna - visualize!
While you’re waiting for some good news, notice that there’s a cogent and well-written op-ed essay by David Brooks in the NY Times.
I’m starting to feel good about Obama winning Texas, and holding close in Ohio. We shall see …
Jesus on a f’n dinosaur! WTF Ohio? MSNBC reported that 20% of voters said that race mattered 80% of which voted for Clinton. I know it’s changing the rules, but after '04 and now this-- can we punish Ohio, sort of like FL or MI, but on the grounds of sheer stupidity?
MSNBC is now running how “successful” it was, and showing support for Hillary’s phone ad. Joe Scarborourgh is a douche; Rachel Maddow, to her credit, was showing some actual sense as usual; Olbermann is playing it pretty straight.