Except that our drmark2000 wannabe is hoping, expecting, pushing for a pile-on all about him. DNFTT any further would be the best reply (not that I expect that to happen).
Is it shithouse rat season? Here we have simultaneous trolling Pit threads by Aeschines and prr, both of whose OPs seem calculated to touch off personal attacks upon their authors so that they may gleefully fling feces in return and wallow in their own cleverness.
Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber
It seems like you’re doing your best to overturn the hard work of atheists before you. Previously, people could read posts from Gaudere, Spiritus, Glee, Sentient, and a long long list of atheists who shattered caricatures and stereotypes. Now, they’re stuck reading your drivel, and coming away with confirmation of their prejudices.
You keep going on and on about unreasonableness and irrationality, for example. And yet you have never pointed out so much as a single logical fallacy in anything I’ve ever written on the topic. It is clear to everyone that, in your little mind, being reasonable is synonymous with agreeing with you.
I hate that you teach young people for exactly the same reason I hate that Christian nutjobs teach them. You and the evangelical wackos are nothing more than preachers in competition with one another.
You behave like a wild monkey at a catered buffet. You jump from place to place without apparent rhyme or reason, stepping in people’s food and screaming at them to convey how annoyed you are that they don’t rub their food on their asses before inhaling it the way you do. It’s the only reasonable way.
Obviously, none of this is going to change. So I have a possible offer for you. If I give you $500, will you just go away?
You forgot to add “and not come back.”
I am fascinated by your ideas and would like to contribute to your cause. Do you take English money?
Sure. Beads, wampum, whatever… anything for a noble cause. 
Sweet. You’re on, Liberal. As soon as your check clears, I’ll never post here again. E-mail me for where to send it, etc.
Until that day (which I expect right after Jesus comes back), I’d just as soon return to your originally scheduled OP, if all you thread-shitters and mind-readers will be so kind as to allow me.
**Brian Ekers ** wrote the following, way back when:
I’m not sure why you “can’t quite see how a negative response to a premise somehow reinforces that premise.” Let’s suppose a person opens a thread asking why Scientologists believe as they do, and a Scientologist appears in the thread and proceeds to supply all sorts of stuff and nonsense that contradicts all known science, all known history, itself, and all known rational techniques of argumentation. Isn’t the OP of that thread justified in finding that, far from supplying reasons to believe in Scientology, the detailed answer has rather justified the unsubstantiated ridicule that the OP had previously had for Scientology? And that, rather than weakening the contempt he had had for it, his contempt is much stronger now that he understands in depth the basis of Scientology? Just seems plain-vanilla common sense to me.
That’s all I’m saying the threads I’ve mentioned here have done: a speaker voluntarily supplies enough details to nail down a profound contempt far greater than any that his antagonists might have had before hearing those details, though this result is directly contrary to the speaker’s intent. Someone tries to explain how latesters aren’t disrespectful at all to the people waiting for them, but in the process displays such cluelessness as to what constitutes respect as to reinforce the waitsters’ previous opinions. Someone tries to justify kiting a check and in the process…you get the idea. Is there something I’m not getting here?
It’s a small point, and this is a rather small Pitting, but I’m glad that this process goes on in GD sometimes. It’s ironic (not very profound, but still ironic) that the best destroyers of a contention are often those who put it forth, and I was trying to thank those brave souls who eschew obfuscation and just lay out their astonishing beliefs for all to gape at. (This was opened in the Pit, and not IMHO or MPSIMS just because some—not all, John Mace—of the posts being referenced were themselves Pit threads, and meta-criticism of a thread in another thread tends to turn quickly to Pitting, however friendly to the thread the meta-thread is trying to be.)
It’s Bryan.
Oh, my God! A thousand apologies! I don’t know what I was thinking when I insulted Bryan by misspelling his name. I’m so ashamed. If you want to open a Pit thread for this crime, I promise to appear there and confess my misdeed in that thread as well.
I knew ‘Brian’ didn’t look right
Since I’m sure you will agree that you are not to be trusted, here’s the deal. As of the timestamp of this post, if you do not post for two years, then I will send you $500 and just take your word that you will never post again. You may signify your agreement by your immediate compliance.
PRR is annoying and arrogant, and frankly he seems completely incapable of debating with any skill. But he’s not an idiot, and only an idiot would take that offer.
Not at all what you offered. Rejected.
You have now demonstrated that you are not to be trusted, however. You offer $500, then you claim that I am not to be trusted, but if I satisfy your wish for two years, then my word can be trusted. Seems to me that the original objection was to not have me post here, or at least to have my every post interuppted with repeated harrasment (like that’s not happening now already?), which I would richly deserve if I accepted your money and then continued to post. Tell you what, I will promise not to request a change in username, and promise not to post here again, so that if I try to post under a different username, I’m a troll by definition.
Or as you have so amply demonstrated, I can request a self-suspension, which I’ll be glad to do.
Or you could simply admit that you lost your head in making your offer, and now you’re trying to weasel out of it.
:yawn:
DNFTT.
Better yet, the second your check clears, I’ll open up a second unauthorized user-name $500 Richer, and announce that I am also PRR and I’ll therefore be banned for life.
Again if I fail to do this, I’m pretty much opening myself up to all sorts of abuse, beyond that which I currently get. Hell, I’d even pit a scumbag who agreed to take your money without following through on his agreement, even if that scumbag was me.
Come on. I really want your money. I’m dead serious. Are you?
See, that’s just more evidence for the pile proving that you don’t pay attention. What I wrote was the possibility of an offer. Go ahead. Scroll up and check it out. I’ll wait…
There’s no reason for me to back out of my offer. It’s what your sense of honor is worth to you, but it’s just chump change to me. I have a lot more than that just in my personal allowance account. (I get $100 per week in personal allowance.) If you really cared at all about your convictions and your allegedly noble cause of stamping out faith, no amount of money would buy you off. I think it’s worth $500 to prove you’re a fraud — the Judas of atheists.
But my terms. You can’t be trusted.
Your terms suck, as anyone will tell you. They’re utterly dishonorable–you demand that I take your word that you’ll pay me, but refuse to pay me a nickel on my word, and self-enforcing rules on the SDMB, that I won’t post again. How about this then: I’ll let you pay me on a time plan. I won’t post for a month, and you send me 50 bucks at the end of the month. We can repeat this ten times, after which I’ll continue never to post.
Weasel out of that, asshole.
You know, Lib, I think you’ve gone about this the wrong way. It’s not prr’s honor you can trust in. It’s the shit-stirrers and character assassins on the SDMB you can trust. It’s the approbation and mockery which would follow him everywhere if he broke faith after making the agreement. Every thread he tried any nonsense in, and most he didn’t, would be derailed into what a dishonorable asshole he is. He’d never be able to participate, least of all seriously, again. Just make sure to send the check registered mail and get a scan online of the canceled check when you get it back.
Enjoy,
Steven
You’re assuming he ever intended to send me a cent, under any circumstances at all.
So 30 pieces of silver works out to $500 in 2007 dollars. Huh. Inflation.
Or really big pieces of silver.
It’s a sucker bet, you weren’t even supposed to be around two years from now.
Maybe if the money was in an escrow account he’d believe you. Is there a trusted third party out there? I just love this whole concept. If I were prr, I’d hold out for more. I’m sure a few more people would be willing to throw in a few bucks.
Here’s another idea, people can contribute to one or both of two funds. One to get rid of prr and one for Lib. Whoever’s fund gets more moolah, has to leave but can either keep the money or give it to the charity of their choice. This might fall afoul of the board’s rules against campaigns so get permission first.
The possibilities are endless.
Paying somebody to go away, just so we won’t have to listen to him? That’s not what the SDMB is about. The goal here is to fight ignorance, not to get fed up and try to make the ignorant leave. I don’t particularly like pseudotriton ruber ruber, but this is unworthy of you or any other Doper, Liberal.