Yeah…because there are so many good paying jobs out there to be had…
The constitution has nothing to do with it. As citizens we have a right to bitch when the administration is more concerned with lining their own pockets than fixing a screwed up economy where its nearly impossible to find a job that pays a living wage. Its the presidents job to promote the general welfare, and its the citizens job to bitch when he doesnt do his job.
Spot on baby, spot on.
That dropped to 37% this past week. Try to get your facts straight, goddamnit.
One of my liberal-impaired colleagues told me last week that he sincerely believes that Nixon was NOT a crook, that the budget surplus under Clinton was just manipulation of numbers, and that it wasn’t about the blow job (this said with pursed, disapproving lips), but rather the perjury, dammit. His model of good leadership is Ronald Reagan, the ethically challenged mo-fo that has brought us to the current state of affairs in America.
Gee, Jinx, thanks for telling us how bad off we are. We’d have never known otherwise. I mean, the fact that the employment rate is the lowest it’s been in quite some time and the economy is steaming along so well that the Fed had to raise the interest rate to slow it down a little obviously doesn’t mean jack shit to a liberal doing an “I-Hate-Bush-He-Sucks” rant, so we really appreciate your dropping by and doing the doom and gloom bit for us.
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Bolding, and snerking, mine.
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Thanks Chefguy.
Eagerly waiting for john to explain this away.
Didn’t we do this already?
Well, 'round these parts (the midlands of SC) there are a ton of ‘good paying’ jobs to be had. Hell, nationwide there are a ton of ‘good paying’ jobs to be had. The need for construction workers remains at the highest it’s been since the '50s (in all areas except residential building.) Check your local help wanted. I’d be willing to bet a buck that there are more than a few slots for police, fire, and EMT employees. Many school districts are looking for teachers. And like I said before, you can always enlist.
The folks I always hear bitching about “no good paying jobs to be had” are either 1: individuals with no marketable skills or training, or 2: individuals with tech sector jobs which got offshored (they have the skills, but refuse to compete in a global free market, and thus negate their marketable skill.) It’s sad, but if you find that there is ‘no work’ for you, that doesn’t necessarly mean that the economy sucks. It means you suck, and you need to find a different line of work.
Where is it that the Administration is lining its own pockets? They went with no-bid contracts to the only goddamned company which could carry out those contracts. Same as Clinton did, and Bush Sr, and Regan, and Carter before him. As far as screwing up the economy, you can blame that on the free market, not the Administration. Bush inherited a recession started not by bad governance, but the collapse of the tech bubble back in '99. Since then, unemployment has remained at Clinton era lows. Like I said, there are jobs to be had…if you’re willing to work.
Absolutely! If you’re fiftyish truck driver with no prospects, take up computer programming! And if you’re a fiftyish Cobol programmer, look into truck driving!
Explain what away? First, you need to explain exactly how that equals “a disasterous financial state of affairs”. The imminent collapse of the country due to debt load has been predicted for many decades, and none of the predictions have been correct. What makes your prediction correct this time? Your anger?
Perhaps the fact that it’s the largest debt ever incurred, is increasing at the rate of $3.5 billion every day, has no end in site, and has prompted both the GAO and the Treasury Department to make some very specific comments regarding reigning in the spending? Combined with a ballooned real estate market and the theftoopsborrowing of funds from pensions, this is a very dangerous state of affairs. Also, nobody has ever called in their notes in the past, but it would only take someone like Japan to do so to send us spiraling into depression. At the rate we’re alienating friends in the world, it’s not an impossible scenario.
This isn’t anger, it’s fear. Avian flu holds no terrors for me with this megalomaniac in the White House.
Has the GAO and the Treasury department said we’re in a “disasterous” financial situation? No, I didn’t think so.
Did you actually READ what you just quoted there, John Mace?
Perhaps you don’t consider a deficit that huge and growing that quickly to be a problem of disastrous proportions but I, along with a goodly number of other thoughtful people, definitely do. What happens to your personal financial situation if you overspend your income consistently by a large percentage? Would you not lie awake at night worrying about what would happen if every person you owe money to were to queue up at once to get paid? No? You must be like the President then, all fat and secure in the knowledge that somebody else will have to deal with the mess you made. It must be nice to be so untroubled about saddling your neighbors, friends and family with a white elephant of a deficit like that–sure wish I were a Republican so I could sleep well knowing it’s somebody else’s problem. :rolleyes: Assholes.
As for the rest of you Marie Antoinette “Let 'em eat cake/get a better job” dickweeds out there, I certainly hope you get the chance to find out first hand what a crappy job market can do to a person. The sooner the better, in fact. :dubious:
Good for you. You’re probably full of it, but if there are some in the area, congrats. The rest of the country is not so lucky
not around here. and some of us are physically unable to do construction work. And if I could, it still doesnt pay very much.
ANd you would lose that bet. There are waiting lists to get into those jobs around here, if you already have the training. And they dont pay much.
Not around here. School budgets are in real trouble, and being a school teacher is something that takes expensive classes that people laid off dont have the money for. And it doesnt pay well.
Not every body can. I’m to old and have to many medical problems and it doesnt pay much even if I didn’t. Remember? were talking about good paying jobs here.
The folks I always hear bitching about “no good paying jobs to be had” are either 1: individuals with no marketable skills or training, or 2: individuals with tech sector jobs which got offshored (they have the skills, but refuse to compete in a global free market, and thus negate their marketable skill.)
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Not a matter of refusing to compete for people with tech jobs who got screwed, they cant work for 10 bucks a month. Not even legally.
Or it means ignorant asshats like you voted in a corrupt elitist who destroyed the middle class in this country. I currently have my own business because I was lucky enough to have family who were willing to invest. I see people every day who have lost everything and weren’t so lucky.
Ah…the “But mommy, they did it first” defense. Got ya. Open your eyes. get your news somewhere else but AM radio.
he inherited a moderately bad economy and sent it into a bad spiral. Yes, there are min wage jobs out there to replace the middle class ones that were lost due to his bad management.
Unemployment levels are misleading. People who were making 60k a year now working partime at walmart are considered employed. People who have been unemployed so long they no longer are on unemployment are considered employed.
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UNemployment. Dammit, Mr. Preview is our friend.
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Fifty-one year old COBOL programmer here. I became one after a career change at thirty-four. Seventeen years of continuous employment at ever-increasing salaries, and very little short-term chance of unemployment. I don’t know any programmers who have any job worries, if they are any good at it.
Unemployment is not calculated from those receiving benefits, but from a survey.
By the way, fushj00mang, South Carolina’s September unemployment rate is 6.6%, higher than all states but Alaska, Louisiana, and Mississippi. Must be rolling in jobs over there.
Goodie for you, speaking for all programmers everywhere. Try coming out to Silicon Valley. Have a few conversations with programmers who’ve taken jobs at McSwiney’s “just til I can find another programming job.” Some people were lucky enough to find jobs elsewhere and relocate. Others are trying to scrape by starting their own businesses. And others are trying to find a different line of work and still pay the bills on half of what they once made. Just because you personally haven’t seen it, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
It happened to me in my previous career, and I responded by getting an associate degree in 18 months while living with my parents while in my 30’s, working as a security guard at night to pay child support and tuition. Right now, I’m fifty-one years old, making 90K, and going to school at night to get a BS. If my job went away tomorrow, I’d be working somewhere the day after, and looking for a good job while I worked. What I would not be doing is pretending that the economy in this country sucks, or staying in Silicon valley or anywhere else waiting for a job to materialize.
I don’t know if you’re trying to be funny (I sicerely doubt it, though), but you can’t just waltz in to a school district and declare yourself a teacher. You have to, you know, actually get a degree. The other jobs you list as options also require training and/or experience - help wanted section ain’t going to help you out there.
As far as enlisting, I was in the Army for 4 years (I’m guessing you, like most people who spout jingoistic jargon, never served), and as an E-4 I was still eligible for food stamps and other government assistance. If you’re single, it’s easier to save money in the military (though most of the single soldiers I knew were always broke because they went clubbing all the time), but if you’re married with kids it’s pretty rough - the housing allowance when I was in didn’t come close to covering rent and utilities, and without food stamps I would have been in serious trouble. And enlisting in a time of war probably isn’t that appealing an option for most people - if you’re that desperate for cash, might as well rob people - beats killing them, huh?
Yes, people are unemployed because they suck. Brilliant. I especially like the part about “refusing to compete in a global market” - what, you mean doing tech work for sub-minimum wage to compete with India? Yeah, those tech sector workers sure are greedy - must be a union thing. While we’re at it, why don’t all the poor people living in slums just move into nicer neighborhoods? What’s wrong with those fuckers? They must enjoy being poor, or they’re all on crack or something. Jesus Christ, what a fucking tool you are.