In GOP We Trust? NOT!

The BBQ Pit
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Congrats, GOP, you Re-pig-licans!! You managed to fool 51% of people all the time selling America a candidate who can’t find the real enemy, so he invented one. I bet he’ll invade Mexico, next!

Just remember, GOP, we’re watching you. You will be held accountable for every American life lost in Iraq. You will be held responsible for every job lost under King George (Bush). You will be responsible for four more years of non-action to spur a stagnant economy. Yes, four more years hearing how “the GOP inherited a bad economy” - what George Bushhit! Eight years total of misery under King Bush. I can’t sleep at night. There’ll be nothing left of the USA to defend after four more years of stagnation. We’ll fix the enemy, all right! We’ll teach 'em! We’ll shoot ourselves in the foot economically and sink ourselves, that’s what we’ll do!

And if Osama were smart, he’d just take his money and start buying up pieces of America left and right. Hey, that’s the name of the game in a nation with a sour economy and a thriving tower of debt! Yep, we’re selling the US by the pound! Or, shekel, yen, drakma, franc, whatever…

Thank goodness the big, bad GOP is gonna save all our fetuses just to send them off to war when they’re ripe for Uncle Sam. Maybe we can genetically engineer a GI stamp on their bottoms, too? And while we’re at it, why doesn’t King Bush bring back manditory ROTC to colleges and high schools? After all, the GOP hasn’t seen a good war in a long time.

If you think our colors don’t run, you people who voted for Bush need a history lesson? Or, you’re probably the same ones who can’t find Vietnam on a map!

Keep just keep your Bush out of my yard!

  • Jinx :mad:

Save America, Defeat GOP in 2006! Let’s clean the House and the Senate!

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Dial down the hysteria, sugar. Yeah, I’m not happy, either, but theat battle is over. Now we have to concentrate on winning 2006 and to do that we have to reach out to the moderate center, not alienate them even further.

Bush has a new opportunity to unite America, and I’m willing to give him a chance. Of course, if he continues on the same reckless path he’s pursued for the past 4 years, I’ll be on him and his followers like white on rice.

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With ya, gobear. At this point, the extreme left is dead…a political zero. The only way to get the Democrats back in any kind of control is to move to the center. Waaaaay to the center. :smiley:

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Here you go, sweetie.

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Hey, Jinx, just wanted to say thanks. It’s the Dems like you, who resort to name-calling and extremist alienation that drove a great many undecided voters to stick with the President.

God bless you.

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I’m certainly getting tired of all these threads, but at least this is new (to me anyway).

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Saw Rove on the BBC yesterday. He said ‘there is no center’ and that’s what his strategy was built on. And it worked so perhaps he’s right.

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Is it Left to put people back to work? Is it Left to pay them overtime? Is it Left to give our children a brighter future? I can understand concerns about same-sex marriage, but a GOP Congress wouldn’t let that happen, anyhow. That was a moot smokescreen which worked brilliantly. So, if a strong economy and an offensive plan to go after the REAL enemy is being Left, I don’t want to be Right!

What I simply find unthinkable is that 51% of America would rather trust Bush’s words OVER Bush’s actions! What do they see in this man? Leadership? Well, you know, Custer thought he was a dang good leader, too, you know!

My family lost everything under Reagan. We survived under a rock during that boob, Bush’s solo stint. Then, America finally came to its senses and voted for Clinton twice. OK, he cheated on his wife. Not good, but not as serious as what the GOP has given us: Watergate, Iran-Contra, and now Hali-burdon (sic). Don’t forget America, Haliburton and the like are milking this war for all they can!

And guess what? Hard working, well-educated people like me are living the brink again thanks to Bush-GOP’s belief in laissez faire allowing comapnies like Enron run & ruin the once, good ole USA.

Do you, the common working person, think you stand a chance in this country? Don’t you ever stop to think why it’s getting harder and harder to make ends meet? Don’t you see those groceries shrinking in size? That’s hidden inflation, folks! Isn’t that crafty of them? Why, the consumer will barely even notice! :smiley:

We’re standing on the brink of a domestic crisis, and 51% of this nation turns a blind eye and deaf ear to it? Have the farmers forgetten the origin of Farm-Aid?
Instead of seeing what’s happening, are they really pledging allegiance to people like the Mouth that swallowed radio, Rush Dumbaugh (sic)? :eek: I’d like to see Rush work for a living!

Mark my word, America…we’re going back to those glorious days when a “K”-Car was considered acceptable for every hard-working American family. Don’t we, the working stiffs, deserve better? I remember an America that once put families first.

Just remember this, America…the GOP killed your overtime pay!
No middle-class American unenslaved to the big-business machine!
Don’t be fooled, you college students: You don’t get a career, you get a job…if you’re lucky.

  • Jinx :mad: at a sinking America

Please keep your Bush out of my yard.

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Sure, there’s a center. Bush didn’t win because of Rove’s tactics as much as Kerry lost due to his lackluster message, along with the extremist rhetoric of the anti-Bush crowd. If Kerry had just gotten 2 or 3 more percentage points in just one state with 4 or more electoral votes, he’d be the new president-elect right now. So don’t tell me there’s not a center.

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You obviously have no clue what is going on in this country. How can you afford to be undecided? Are you watching the news every night? Have you kissed your OT good-bye?

Undecided!?! You must have been asleep for four years! At least I don’t sit on a fence and fall for this magician’s tricks. There’s nothing to be undecided about!

It’s not name calling…it’s called the TRUTH!

  • Jinx
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I had one of them and found it to be an honest, unassuming means of conveyance. It was so generic I wanted to paint it white and stencil CAR on its side but I’ve had worse.

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Hey, don’t yell at me, i’m on your side okay.

Rove argues that because there is such a split in values if you make the election a question of those then there is no centre. All that mattered was rousing the conservative base around those values as that base is larger than that supporting the values you and I cherish (although I’m just a bystander caught in the backwash in the UK). By not making any play for the centre the Republicans could focus their message and resources more effectively.

And again - it worked. We might not like it but it seems the US electorate places a higher value on SSM etc etc than they did on Iraq and the economy in deciding on their vote. The republicans spotted that a couple of years ago and ran with it very effectively.

Correction - it was Perle recounting a big meeting where Rove presented this strategy, not Rove himself.

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I know this is what the word on the grapevine keeps saying, but we’re not buying Coca-cola here, people. Is that all America is about? A glitzy wrapper and nothing on the inside? At least in England, they finally wised-up one day and made their supreme aristocrasy into a figure head. At least they know their #1 family does nothing, and they’re not ashamed of it! :wink:

I want Bush to come and personally shake the hands of every American whose job went down the toilet during his first four years. I want him to look them in the eye and tell them what a prime sacrifice they’ve made for the advancement of his career. - Jinx

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Um, reading comprehension much? I was never undecided. But for those that were, I’m sure hysterics like yours did little to sway them to your side.

And your ‘truth’ is really subjective.

Chill out sister, hell, I’ll buy you some xanax. You sound like you really need it.

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Seconded. Can we get a vote? :smiley:

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Gods, I am so fucking sick of hearing this argument.

Guess what? People who oppose Bush do it from ** our heartfelt moral view **.
Just like many Bush supporters, in their heartfelt ‘moral’ view, think that legalized discrimination against gays is just fine and dandy.

These are our beliefs. We believe in truth, in peace, in a good economy, in legal equality, in seperation of church and state, in civil liberties, etc, etc, etc…

As has been said, extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.

So you know what? Close to half of this country believes that the agenda Bush represents isn’t just wrong, it’s bad, it’s un-fucking-American.

And no, many of us will not keep silent.
And no, many of us will not stop fighting.
And no, we will not lie down and take it just becuase 51% of the country seems to have been asleep for four years.
And no, we will not let you have this victory on a silver platter just because the massive cognitive dissonance has not reached you yet.
And no, we won’t give up on the promise of this great nation, we won’t flee or fly or run away, we’ll stay here, because this is our country too.
And yes, if you were undecided and voted for bush becuase some people hate him, you’re a fucking moron.

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Nope, just you.

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Hey, Democrats - I think you’ve found a new leader as you regroup for 2006. Listen to Jinx!

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Jinx, your side screamed until they were figuratively blue in the face that Bush was responsible for every death in Iraq this election. You screamed that Bush was accountable for every job lost under his administration, and said that that amounted to more jobs lost than under any other President since the depression.

So, having decisively lost seats in the House and Senate, and having lost the White House AGAIN with that approach, your plan is to … scream until you’re blue in the face that Bush is responsible for every death in Iraq this election, and that Bush is accountable for every job lost under his administration.

Yup. Good plan. I think I can start offering bets on 2006 right now, if this is the Democrat plan.

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OK, so Kerry had a dull wrapper and nothing on the inside.

The Democratic candidate and campaign sucked this year. The anybody-buy-Bush strategy failed. Try again in 2008, but with substance.

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Yeah, but that’s your truth, Jinx. You seem to think that your truth holds for everybody. Just looking at the jobs/economy issue you have brought up…what about those who have good jobs? I’ve got a job I’m very pleased with. It pays well and I enjoy it. My income taxes have gone down. My family and friends are all working and doing well enough. Are there people in my church and neighborhood with bad job situations? Sure, but I don’t hear them blaming Bush.

I bet there are more people in financial trouble in the U.S. because of unrestrained spending, credit card debt, lack of a saving ethic, than because Bush caused them to lose their job.

And to answer you question, yes, I do follow the news. I read the Washington Post every day (I don’t watch TV news at all, although I do catch some of the cable commentary/debate shows once in a while).

I think I have a very good clue about what is going on in this country. It’s just that I draw different conclusions. You see the Iraq war one way, I see it another. I see certain social issues one way, you seem them another. I see the Second Ammendment issues one way, you likely see them another. Ok, no harm in that.

But for you and your comrades to be aghast that others don’t fall into the leftist lockstep, and then conclude that we must (MUST, I tell you!) be stupid, misguided, sheeple; well, just keep on thinking that. And every election cycle you can continue to ask yourself these questions.