:rolleyes: What a ridiculous accusation.
What I’m saying is that rap music is a perfect example of liberals being both unable and unwilling to separate the wheat from the chaff when comes to a cause they champion. It is virtually impossible for anyone (but especially conservatives) to criticize rap music and not be shouted down with insults and claims of racism. No, one must embrace anything and everything coming out of black culture or be accused of racism. IMO, many liberals themselves dislike it and feel powerless to criticize it because in their own minds in would make them racist.
Another example? During the women’s movement it was impossible for anyone on the conservative side to point out that obvious differences exist between men and women and that women may not be suited for certain jobs as a result. (Firefighting, which would require the ability to carry people down ladders being the most obvious example.) No, instead one had to pretend there was absolutely no difference between men and women whatsoever (although the ability to get pregnant would be sometimes be grudgingly admitted), or one was condemned as a chauvinistic sexist pig. (I’m sure you remember that one.)
Only recently there was a thread around here asking why blacks all over the world seem to dominate footraces (or sports in general, I don’t remember exactly). After much dancing around and trying pretend this wasn’t so, or to find acceptable reasons for why it was so but with their race not a factor, someone finally finally acknowledged the elephant in the corner and asked why all the dancing around? Why was everybody avoiding the obvious? The answer, seldom acknowledged by liberals where conservatives can see or hear it, was that if it was admitted that blacks were superior athletically it would give ammunition to racists who would then use it to argue blacks were inferior mentally.
You asked what I would have had liberals do to bring about change in a more acceptable manner, and a large part of the answer would be to abandon the dishonesty (and concomitant angry accusations of racism, sexism, and whatever other “ism” was the issue at hand) and deal with things honestly.
IMO, it would have been far better if in the event someone had said that women couldn’t be police officers because men would beat them up, the liberal response would have been first of all not to jump to the conslusion that he was opposed to women’s rights (which was invariably the case), but to recognize that he may not have been opposed to women’s rights but understandably unsure as to how a woman police officer would handle getting punched by a drunken 6’2" asshole who didn’t want to be arrested. It would have been better to simply say, yeah, women might need help in this type of case, but the trade-off between hiring more officers and the ability of women to realize their dreams of police work makes it worthwhile.
Or in the case of black athletic superiority, to acknowledge what is obvious to anyone with even half a brain and state openly and clearly that, yes, black people have superior abilities when it comes to sports, and then deal with accusatons of inferior mentality with cites and statistics and anecdotes to disprove them.
You don’t do anything but make yourselves look dishonest with tactics like the ones I mention above, and that egregiousness is compounded by the arrogant declarations of sexism, racism, etc. that invariably accompany them. Stuff like this is what allows people like Rush Limbaugh to declare “The truth is self-defeating…if you’re a liberal!” and have it carry the ring of truth.
Facing things head-on and with honesty is a much better way to proceed than deliberately turning a blind eye to what is perfectly obvious, and then calling people hateful names when they dare mention it themselves.
I couldn’t care less. What’s right is right and what’s wrong is wrong, and it’s a condemnation of the societal norms that liberals…in their inability to oppose anything touched by race…have created an environment in which that kind of music has become so much the norm that to criticize it makes one sound ‘provincial’.
Obviously, I disagree. These all grew from the liberal culture, which championed sexual freedom and glorified and widely propogated the use of drugs.
I never said that and you know it. This is just another example of taking anything someone says that doesn’t fit instantly and totally into your own view and turning it into an offensive remark so you can yell racism. What I said (or at least was implying) was that among the blacks I knew at the time, no one seemed to feel that anyone had feet on his grandmother’s neck.
They could have done like I said above and been much more honest and less acusatory when anyone posed an honest queston.
Okay, now I’m starting to get both tired of these ridiculous assertions and just plain pissed, to boot. You know perfectly well that I never said the civil rights movement was responsible for STDs and drugs. You either have a serious problem with reading comprehension, or you’re just another liberal dipshit looking to misconstrue honest comments so as to allow you the moral high ground from which to attempt to belittle your opponents.
But be that as it may, the civil rights movement was well under way by the time of the counter-culture revolution. And it would have succeeded regardless, because most of the people in this country at that time (including me) knew the racism that existed then was wrong.
