I’m talking about both of them. The organic dipshits are quite willing to subside ADM with other people’s money because they expect that the fuel ethanol it produces will be too expensive for anyone but them to use. That way, the proles will have to say home the way that Ehrlich intended them to instead of cluttering up the national parks.
Now, let me put the problem of world hunger in terms that you probably can’t grasp, but anybody who doesn’t spend his time and money in backing Big Environment can:
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[li]The real problem with world hunger: people who don’t enough to eat.[/li][li]The real solution to that problem: give them more food.[/li][li]The best way to do that: who cares? We do it, instead of whining and marching and forming study groups. Will we make mistakes? Sure. If you can’t bear the thought of someone, somewhere, making a mistake, kill yourself, and become an angel, thereby morally perfect and with an intuitive grasp of the natures of things. Most of us over of the age of six have come to grips with the fact that we are mortal and limited.[/li][/ul]
Has anyone considered attending a PETA meeting just to throw a chicken pot pie at the speaker? Dammit, if vegetarians have lunatic fringe groups, us omnivores should have one too.
As a card-carrying member of “Omnivores of America” I must say that I think PETA has a point. As Americans, whose biggest concern is what color our next SUV will be, we should treat the animals that end up on our plate with more dignity. That seems to me to be a rational, legitimate argument. After all, when we execute the most despicable criminals of our society, we do it humanely. Why not extend that courtesy to Daisy, who has done nothing to earn our contempt?
I’d even be willing to go that extra mile and pay more for my meat at the grocery to a processor that handled its animals humanely.
Having said that, I fail to see how throwing a pie in someone’s face will further PETA’s cause. And their latest “Drink Beer” campaign was one step removed from the funny farm they hope to put out of business.
Absolutely. Better yet, someone who has had blood/guts/ink/pie thrown at/on his/her person by some brain damaged PETA should just beat the hell out of the thrower. I would love to see that on the 11 o’clock news. But I am an older Texan, too primitive for todays kinder, gentler world.
Actually, the currently correct term is “recovering Texan”. Born and raised in Waco. You never heard of it, nothing ever happens there. Home of the feared and dreaded Baylor Bears.
I don’t know about European farmers, but my father has been farming 300 acres and milking about 40 head for most of his life. Milk prices are currently at about $16/cwt. A gallon of milk weighs 8.6 pounds. So dad’s raking in about a buck forty a gallon. Doing a bit of math it seems he makes about 12 bucks an hour. Sounds good, eh?
No health insurance. No paid sick time (as a matter of fact, if he gets sick, he has to pay someone to fill in). No paid vacation (see above). 401(k)? Pension? Get real. Combine breaks down and needs a new $4,000 head? He pays. Tranny goes out ont the White? $5k down the tubes. A drought year and the alfalfa dies out? A bunch of $k (forgot how much) per semi load. Our lovely Minnesota weather hails out the corn? Gee, who pays for the crop insurance? So you can take your mini-rant about price supports and stick it in your ear. When the guy at 10 Downing Street <or any other head of state> decides to get rid of British supports we’ll get rid of ours. Is sad that family farms are going the way of the local hardware store.
/hijack off/
BTW, just because an animal is an herbivore does not mean it can’t/doesn’t kill. Ever seen the results of a 1500 pound cow laying down on a sleeping kitty? Ain’t pretty
No one has said how PETA sounds like something you would fill with the delicious flesh of well-roasted succulent dead animals.
Well, heck. If we can’t eat cows, why I guess we’ll just have to barbecue one of them there PETA folks this 4th of July. They’s pretty boney, though, they don’t got much meat on 'em, after livin too long on them there genetically altered soy beans; we might have to fry up a couple of 'em to have enough to go ‘round. PETA-Burgers: Vegitarians salivate, meat lovers celebrate. Just don’t go lookin’ for any good-sized portions.
Don’t you worry none about them taken the beaks off them chickens, neither. The beaks ain’t no good eat’n anyways, although I tossed a few out t’the dawgs t’other day and they looked like they was chewin’ on some bubble gum. We just laughed and laughed, till the young’uns had to pick up them half-chewed-up chicken beaks out’the yard.
Can’t say as I blame them folks for havin’ a canniption, either. Daddy always said if you’s fightin with someone and don’t have a leg to stand on, you better yell louder or throw somethin’. Sure is a hoot when they get all riled up and preachin’ about treatin’ animals like people when they can’t even treat other folks like people.
Can’t figure them PETA folks out, though. Critters been eatin’ other critters now for long as I can remember, and I reckon a long time before that. Seems the good Lord made things that way, and they seem to have worked pretty good that way for a long time. Can’t figure out why they has to pretend they’s more moral than the Lord hisself is.
If you can’t bear the thought of someone, somewhere, making a mistake, kill yourself, and become an angel, thereby morally perfect and with an intuitive grasp of the natures of things. Most of us over of the age of six have come to grips with the fact that we are mortal and limited.
Wow, thats better than a Wally sig. Can I use that?
Xgem is right> Over in GD we had a thread for a while, something like “would getting rid of cattle save the earth”. The guy that started that actually beleived that cattle were not grazed, except perhaps on prime farm land. I posted a few sites to show how wrong he is. Cattle are usually grazed, out West, on Public land,or other land which is completely useless for farming, so they actually INCREASE the overall food supply. Atho overgrazing CAN & does damage the environment, many farms do also, with chemicals & stuff, overall the farms, which grow veggies, are worse than the ranches. Another way cattle are grazed is to cycle the farm land, with one rotation being grazing. Good for the environment, and good for the soil- and again, more, not less, overall food. Now, cattle are then put in feedlots for a month, where they are fed waste veggies and grain ( again, a plus for overall food) and special types of corn, that yields 2-4 times as much per acre as sweetcorn. This slightly loses overall food ( gain is say 3x, but cattle yield maybe 1/5). Again, not really bad for environment.
So, meat is no worse for environment, and there is a net overall food +.
And besides: If we were not meant to eat animals, then why are they made out of meat?
I wonder how much thought she put into what she did before hand. She assaulted a Cabinet Member. We’re talking Federal Felony here. She’s not looking at some $100 fine for trespassing. She’s looking at considerable jail time.
Lots of cattle are fed silage.Around here corn silage. The whole field is cut and chopped and piled into bunkers or blown into plastic bags. If it goes into bunkers it is usually packed down by driving over it with a tractor.
We have a new dairy a mile south of us and they used the bunker method. Wierd seeing tractors 25feet high packing soggy corn stalks.
I wonder if those that think that land is used for feeding cattle instead of feeding people realize how much land is sitting idle.
Most farmers I know would GIVE hungry people food if they knew who they were.It seems to me that politics is the reason for most hunger. How many want to feed the hungry in Ethiopia after what they did to our GIs a few years back.
My older sister attended Baylor long enough to find a husband. I was a young child at the time and mostly remember the bear pit on campus.
As a “Red Raider” I used to know quite a few Aggie jokes, but the only one I can remember is the one about some Aggie inventing an improved parachute: It opened on impact.
I really like “recovering Texan.” That would make a good sig line.
A lot of cattle food is farming waste. So, not less food, MORE food.