That's it. Won't watch Glee anymore.

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

It’s got NOTHING to do with rights, or privileges.

I simply will not accept being labelled as “disrespectful” or “bigoted” because I don’t like something. I’ve said, in this thread and elsewhere in the real world, that “live and let live” is how I roll, but some of the things going on in this world repulse me, and I choose to not watch them, participate in them, even distance myself from them.

And that’s perfectly fine. In both the world I live in, and yours. That’s what *you *need to “get over”.

Too bad. Your choices were to keep quiet about it and be left alone or make a stink and have your views rejected. Don’t blame us because we don’t give you the leeway you require to be offensive.

If you are saying that attractive people may wear bathing suits in public but fat people shouldn’t, that’s saying one group has privileges the other doesn’t.

If you are saying attractive couples can kiss in public, but ugly people shouldn’t, that’s about privileges.

If you’re saying one set should be able to do something, and another group shouldn’t, that’s about privileges.

Again, I’m not saying they should or shouldn’t do anything.

I’m just saying I don’t like to see it.

What I like, at least the last time I checked, does not affect public policy. Do your opinions affect public policies?

If you think I’m being offensive because I express the opinion that two grown men kissing is objectionable, then where’s the respect for my position?

I’m not the one who is calling the people disgusting, or saying their rights should be less.

I simply do not enjoy (to the point of being repulsed) watching them make out, or screw, or run around naked, or eat their scabs, or put on a bikini despite weighing 500lbs.

And ain’t nobody gonna tell me that I’m the one who’s wrong for that.

Actually, you are. I’m not in agreement with the sentiment you’re railing against, however, I do think you are responsible for your reactions to things. For example, I used to feel just as you do. Repulsed by the mere sight of gay affection. But because I was mature enough to realize the shortcoming was my own, I actively worked to change that. It’s kind of like how little kids are taught not to blanch and stare at the sight of someone different than them. Like a person with Down Syndrome or justifiable histrionics at a funeral. You just learn that there’s things you should get over and quit pandering to your baser self.

I’m not required to have respect for it. If you think two men kissing is repulsive, keep it to your own self. If you must bring it up, don’t complain when people make a face and move away from you. People are allowed to have stupid opinions. They’re not guaranteed respect for them.

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Ahem, see how that works both ways?

You run into gay people fucking a lot, huh? Just a tip, you should probably consider switching to straight porn.

It doesn’t work both ways. That’s why you had to rewrite his post.

Out here in the real world, where I walk, talk, live, breath, etc. that is exactly how it works.

This internet armchair cause-championing that people love to take up doesn’t mean a whole lot when compared against that which actually happens.

Two gay guys, one my friend, the other not, start making out in front of me. I roll my eyes and say “aw come on dude” and walk away.

A morbidly obese chick puts on a bikini and walks down the boardwalk. I comment to my friends “aw come on dude” and walk the other way.

A pair of porno/performance actors decide to shit in a cup and feed it to each other. I comment to my friends “aw come ON dude!” and walk away.

In none of those instances were rights trampled upon. The gays can get married and fuck all they want. The fat chick can continue to run about scantily clad. The two girls and their cup can become a viral internet hit. I won’t be campaigning against any of it. Nor will I be leading an angry mob with pitchforks.

It doesn’t mean that I’m somehow debasing them to an inferior position, or elevating myself above them. I’m simply expressing my opinion of their actions, and moving away from it.

And no matter how you try to dice it, that truly is the perfectly acceptable way that the REAL WORLD works.

Man, some of those sites are sneaky. Do a search on “blowjob” and see what returns. :wink: Ya gotta be specific nowadays in order to not have your mood ruined. :smiley:

Acceptable to whom? To the government? Sure. To the law? Okay. To me? Nope. Just because it’s legal to say or do something doesn’t mean that it’s acceptable, okay, or appropriate. You have a right to say what you want, and I have a right to think you’re an asshole. That’s how it works.

“You have to have respect for my position! You’re closed-minded!” is the constant and tiresome refrain from bigots and homophobes who don’t like being called what they are. But no, in fact, we don’t have to have respect for bigotry, the same as we don’t have to have respect for people who kick puppies or go to Coldplay concerts. Not all opinions are worthy of respect.

Serious Glee question: The wife and I have watched the first three seasons. Really enjoyed the first two, thought the third was so-so. Is season four really that bad?

This is the real world. You really chose to broadcast that real gay guys and fat chicks gross you out, and that’s now a part of what some real people reading who read your post will really think of you. I bet you can see what they think of you based on what you said. Congratulations!

The question isn’t really what you think about someone else kissing or holding hands or whatever. The question is why people feel the need to broadcast, loudly, what they feel about seeing it. If you don’t announce it, nobody knows. So if you decide to tell a bunch of people and then say “that’s what I think and I don’t give a fuck, man!” nobody’s going to believe it because it’s clearly not true.

This is against the rules of the SDMB (changing a poster’s quote to add things not said). Don’t do it again.

This made me chuckle. Good one. :smiley:

And I like Coldplay.

So back in 1968 there was a “Star Trek” episode where Kirk kissed Uhura. And before that, there was “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner”. Both examples of interracial relationships. And I’m sure MANY parents then had the EXACT same reaction you are having now. And now we have “Scandal” where the interracial relationship involves the president of the United States !

The fact is, TV and the entertainment industry are always playing “catch up” with what is going on in the world. So you can either try to “shield” your daughter from the reality of the world by trying to keep her in your “denial cave”, or help educate and expose her to what is really going on.

And I’m ok with that. I’m secure in myself, my opinions, and what others think of them.

It’s really not that big of a deal to me. People making it seem like holding an unpopular opinion is somehow worthy of villification are the ones who ought to be reconsidering their “tolerant” stance.

I’m not vilifying you for holding an unpopular opinion. I’m vilifying you for holding a fucking stupid opinion. There’s a difference.