My motherf*cking ass off and pissing in my pants.
wow
Dear Beth:
So you know what you want: a man to spend gobs of money on you and lavish you with all kinds of attention while you sit back and take him for what he’s got. BUT you don’t want to have to “work” for this.
Have you considered a career with an escort service, or as a call girl? You get the attention, the money, and you don’t have to put up with the pain of a “relationship”.
Phil, I almost wasted a stress headache replying to you, but I think Jester, Wonko, and elmwood already said what I was going to.
Obfus, Obfus, at least when we disagree, we do it civilly. 
–Tim
elmwood, gosh, I’ll be truly and dearly crushed if you don’t read my threads. Really. You obviously have tons of valuable contributions to make.
Because unlike some people in this thread, I have a wife. If you have a spouse, then I have to wonder what you’re doing browsing the classified ads.
Homer, apparently you can dish it out but you can’t take it, eh? Tell me, what did you hope to get out of your e-mail–a pity date? An angry response? Or do you just have so little self-esteem (want me to find your “I’m a worthless piece of shit” Pit thread you started about yourself?) that you needed to tear someone down to feel good about yourself?
Phil sez …
: elmwood, gosh, I’ll be truly and dearly crushed if you
: don’t read my threads. Really. You obviously have tons of
: valuable contributions to make.
Unlike you, who only delights in throwing insults around.
When someone has nothing to contribute to a thread, except to make comments with the intent of inciting the anger of other posters in the discussion, it’s called trolling. As you are probably not aware of, trolling is usually looked down upon, in both Usenet and Web-based bulletin boards.
I didn’t see you making comments in the Anal Mary thread, at http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=41612 . Why insult those who participate in this thread, huh?
Riiiiiiight. I’ve got more than 4,000 posts. Unless you’ve read all of them, I’ll thank you to refrain from characterizations about what I “only delight” in.
Gawrsh, Uncle Elmie, could ya esplain some more ‘bout th’ Internet to me?
So what is it called when you find a person’s personal ad and post a link to it on a message board of which she is not a member for the purpose of getting people to mock her and send her derisive e-mails? (I’ll give you a hint: It rhymes with “Fleeing a big fat sock.”)
FYI, I had no intention of inciting anyone’s anger. I had and have an intention of calling 'em as I see 'em (and I’m not the only one in the thread who feels this way, obviously, as obfuscatriast and lucie do as well). Apparently the standard is “We can post links to total strangers and send them mocking e-mails, but we are above criticism for it.”
I mean, if you’re only bothered by the fact that I hijacked your precious thread to make the comments, I’ll start a new one. (Which, ironically, you will by your own decision be unable to respond to since you won’t be reading it.) OTOH, if the shoe fits . . .
Never saw the thread. See, I don’t read MPSIMS a lot. Most of my posts are in GD and GQ. In fact, I only saw this thread because another Doper notified me of it. If it was the same kind of thing as this, then shame on those people, too. Please, please, please don’t think that you are so special that I singled your thread out. Until this thread, I had no idea you even existed.
BTW, threads like this one really do a lot to help enforce the reputation of the SDMB as a place where smart folks hang out. Again, you should be brimming with pride.
curls up in the corner with her stuffed chamealeon and waits patiently for the inevitable…“Take it to the Pit…”
Caircair-YOUR response was right on the money. I mean, come on! “Spoil me, and spend tons of money on me, so I can use and abuse you!”
And double standards, anyone? Had that been a man saying something like that, telling some girls they were pathetic if they weren’t interested in him, and that they had to worship him while he sat back and did nothing-do you think anyone would be defending him?
pldennison - can’t you see how hypocritical you’re being by calling 'em as you see 'em? How is your judgment call about Homer and elmwood any different from their judgment calls about Beth?
Here’s what you said (bolding mine):
And that’s a pretty bold statement. You know the personal lives of all the posters here? You know they have no prospects? Even if this happens to be true, why does that lessen their opinions? Just because you have an SO does not make your opinons any more valid than theirs. Maybe they are single by choice.
Here you call elmwood a loser and imply Homer is one also. Name calling is not an emotionally immature cheap shot? You contridict yourself here.
And here you presume to know the actions, motivations, and state of mind of everyone here. How utterly arrogant of you. You chastize these guys for making an armchair analysis and then post stuff like this. Mr.Pot, meet Mr.Kettle. Take a nice long long at the snap judgments you’re making about these posters before you critisize them again for making armchair analysis, why don’t you?
signed,
The engaged Crunchy Frog
(I add “engaged” because for some reason, Mr.Dennison seems to believe only people with SO’s have a valid opinion in this thread.)
And yet, you go ahead and post things like this:
As Crunchy Frog pointed out, this is most definitely an insult, not just to elmwood, but to Homer, as well. Can you say hippocrite?
And I won’t even bring up the sweeping generalization about everyone who takes offense to the ad being single. Oh, wait, I just did. Oops. If that wasn’t meant to “insite anyone’s anger,” then what the Hell did you say it for?
Then good ol’ Beth should not have posted a message in a public advertisement which put down everyone that read it, and stated just how much greater she is than everyone else. But hey, don’t yell at me, I’m just calling 'em as I see 'em. :rolleyes:
(Oh, and, by the way, I’m not the only one who thinks so, obviously, since the vast majority of posters in this thread agree do as well.)
As to what Homer expected to get out of his letter? My guess is nothing. especially not a “pity date”. How do I know, you ask? Well, try this line:
Nay, since Homer just stated that he doesn’t have time for dating, I’m guessing that he wasn’t looking for a chance to hook up with this snooty, self-delcared God’s gift to men.
It seems that, instead, Homer meant to express his anger at Beth’s sweeping generalizations (see, she uses them too, she sounds like your type) about anyone who uses internet dating services. In addition, Homer could be doing Beth a favor, by trying to help her realize just how self-absorbed she is.
Before you go commenting on how we’re all picking on poor, downtrodden Beth, you should take another look at her ad. We didn’t single her out because we’re all overly frustrated men, we singled her out we found what she wrote to be offensive. So get over it.
I would, Guinastasia. Look, her ad reads like something straight out of SDSM porn. If you don’t like her game, fine, don’t play it. But it doesn’t mean that there is something psychologically wrong with her.
I’ve been in both roles for the game she is playing and believe me, for most people it is just a role, a game. Everybody has their kinks, this is hers (I personally don’t understand people who only play the top, bottom is more fun). Whatver floats your boat.
I would however, ask that everybody post their own proclivities so that everybody else can point out how screwed up we are.
Yes, but, obfusciatrist, we don’t know that for sure. All that we can factually discern from her post is that she is putting down anyone who reads her ad. There is no way to tell, for sure, whether she is really just “playing her game” or whether she is a complete and total bitch, from the ad alone.
If she were to reply to either Homer or Ender saying that the domination is what she prefers, and she’s really not bad, then fine. The ad is still annoying, but okay nonetheless. However, the ad doesn’t paint her as someone who likes domination. To me, it looks like she’s living the role of self-absorbed bitch, 24/7. Believe it or not, not every person who is a jerk is doing it to get off through some fantasy.
There are better ways she could have advertised a domination fetish, that would have made it more clear. For example “Female dom seeks subordinate male counterpart,” or something along those lines. As it is, her ad leaves too much of a question as to her intents to not be offensive to many.
Crunchy, you I’ll respond to, only because you’re the kind of person who is willing to discuss things.
Well, first of all, I’ll readily admit that I’m doing what I accuse them of doing. My problem is that they appear to be able to dish it out but not take it. They’ll drag a total stranger’s post here to be made fun of by the entire SDMB, but if someone questions their tact and their motivation, watch the defenses rise.
Second of all, while I can’t necessarily speak for elmwood, I’ve been watching Homer’s posts for a long time. Ask him about the thread he started linking to pages full of “ugly people.” and the shit he took for that, and quickly he backpedaled. Seems he never learns. So I’m not making a snap judgement–I’m making a judgement based on Homer’s posting history.
I know for a fact that several of the people posting in the thread do not have girlfriends or prospects, and as such, perhaps they would be wise to refrain from criticizing the dating criteria of others. What strikes me as particularly funny is that by Homer and Enderw23 doing what they are doing, they are only validating what she complains about in her ad.
Uh, yeah. Except they aren’t.
People who search the Web for personal ads to post on message boards to get people to make fun of the person in the ad are losers. I can’t think of a more appropriate word to describe them.
Do you think I’ve never read their posts before, Crunchy? A great many of the posters in this thread are charter members of the SDMB Flirt Squad; if one of them posted a Pit thread about how some man or woman had hurt them, and used Beth’s language from her ad, I guarantee that these same posters would be falling all over themselves to assuage him or her.
No, I think people whose dating lives currently equal less than zero should maybe shut their mouths about other people’s love lives and how they choose their partners.
Jester, not only can I say “hypocrite,” I can spell it. Score another one for stamping out ignorance, I guess. :rolleyes:
Jester, I kind of think this is the point that obfus and pldennison were trying to make (but IMHO, I’d say obfus is doing a better job of it). You don’t know who she is or what her intents were, so why not give her the benefit of the doubt instead of making a judgment of her intentions?
Don’t get my respnse to pldennsion as a disagreement with his POV, just in his manner of presenting it.
If I had seen this on my own, I would have probably thought she was a bit too much of a prima donna for me, but not so much as to warrant any sort of response from me, and I certainly wouldn’t have tried to suggest she needs to seek help.
I also wouldn’t have responded cuz my finace may want to know who the hell the Beth chick is who’s calling and why the hell I was looking at ads in the first place. 
Ouch. An insult about a typo. That hurts. (A large, ugly, misplaced typo, I’ll admit, but a typo nonetheless.)
Crunchy, I agree that obfus and pldennison have a point about not knowing either way. But I’m just saying that the ambiguousness of the ad is the problem. I don’t believe that Homer, Ender, and everybody else who took offense to the ad can be blamed for reacting unfavorably to it, since there really is no way to tell. People react different ways to different things, and for something like that, I think that a few letters are completely justified.
I’m sorry if I didn’t make that clear. My biggest beef was with pld’s “didn’t mean to incite anger” line, followed up by a couple insults. Also, I guess I’ll apologize for not coming across as “willing to discuss these things,” whatever that means.
My two cents…
I think that the moment we put ourselves, in any way shape or form, on the internet for the world to see, or read, we are opening ourselves up to a barrage of either insults or compliments. There will always be people who will feel compelled to respond to people like Beth simply because it is a form of expression for themselves. So sue them. Beth will receive letters of disgust as will she receive letters from fetishists who will want to be her “sub” and spoil her.
IMO, youth speaks volumes for Beth’s attitude.
PL-you and I have a little appointment in the Pit, pal.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=53112
Jester, Homer, Crunchy, all of yinz are welcome to come and continue your “debate” with Phil here…
And my point is that she didn’t even post the bloody thing here. She posted it in a place where people are be likely to be looking for personal ads. elmwood posted I link here, and I can only assume he did so for the purpose of getting you lot to talk trash about her and send her nasty e-mails. What the hell is the point in that? Is that really how you get your kicks? Come on . . .
Again, it isn’t like she came to the SDMB and started a thread looking for dating inquiries and then proceeded to trash all the men here. She probably has never even heard of the SDMB. Some stranger dragged her post over here to start some crap. I mean, if that isn’t trolling, what the hell is??
If she had come here and started it, there might be grounds to take offense. But she didn’t. Doesn’t anyone remember the great SDMB/LBMB war, and how that started? GD was disrupted for weeks because an SDMBer posted a link and basically said, “Give 'em hell!” I can see no more purpose in this thread’s little escapade than I did in that.
Am I nuts here, or does nobody see what I’m saying?
I didn’t mean to incite anger. I meant to make a couple people ashamed of themselves. If that made them angry, then that’s their issue, not mine.
Holy simulpost, Batman!
Well, pldennison, as you can see from my previous post, I don’t have a problem with what you’re saying, just with the manner in which you said it. I don’t think insulting them and belittling their social lives is the best way to tell someone not to be judgmental.
A couple things I’m still not clear on:
I still don’t see how not having an SO makes their opinions any less valid or relevant. Doesn’t the fact that people without SOs or prospects would still not have anything to do with this woman say something? (and I would have to disagree with some posters and say I thought she looked attractive)
Then myabe you could ask your wife for a thesaurus for your birthday. 
C’mon, there has to be a more constructive way to say that without being insulting; immature for example, still not nice, but hardly as inflammatory as calling someone a loser. But was poking fun of her the intention of elmwood’s OP? There he simply asked who would date this person, he didn’t start his own anti-Beth movement.
As a charter member of the SDMB Flirt Squad, I’m walking away from this one.
Again, we’re just going to have to disagree here. I don’t see how I will be convinced that just because someone currently isn’t in a relationship, their views about relationships aren’t equal to those who are in a relationship.