That would be James Purefoy, an exceedingly yummy man. Look for him in Bedrooms & Hallways for some hot man on man action.
At least in fiction, getting jerked around by the whims of princesses, even to the point of getting put in harms way, is an essential part of being a knight. So the fact that Jocelyn did this to Heath didn’t really bother me, but I agree it would’ve worked a lot better if the two could stir up some chemistry to go along with it. Good movie otherwise, though.
And this is one reason I’m happy to be a peasant!
By the way, I agree with WhyNot completely about Dangerous Beauty and not just because one of these days I might yet wind up with the fencing outfit from it. The plot is thought-provoking, the scenery is gorgeous, and it even manages to be romantic and funny. Fellow Dopers, if you need to kill a couple of hours, there are worse ways!
CJ
That’s exactly how I felt too. Ugh. She was too much.
I would like to see this film again, and be able to enjoy it more fully because I won’t be waiting for him to come to his senses as far as Bitchenstein goes. Because the rest of the movie was quite fun.
I did think she had a point in the “If you love me, you’ll lose” scene, although it’s pretty cruel to ask a competitor in a dangerous sport to take a fall for you. But when she came back with the “Oh, changed my mind, you should win now!” I was fully expecting Will to come to his senses. I thought he should have told her that he’d win all right, for HIMSELF, and not to worry about what to wear to the big dance because he’d be taking Kate.
That would be The Order, which also had Brian Helgeland as a director and Mark Addy as a co-star. Kind of like A Knight’s Tale, revisited, only without any of the fun (I was a little disappointed by The Order, frankly).
Why do we assume Jocelyn was a princess? Princess of what? I can accept she was high up the nobility ladder, what with sitting on a cushion with the rest of the jousting sponsors, but I saw no indication she was royalty.
I generally enjoyed this movie quite a bit, and also think the armorer girl was SO MUCH hotter than the (yawn) princess.
However, I thought the big action climax was a letdown:
So our hero has been jousting against some bad guy. And the bad guy is a REALLY good jouster, and never misses. And our hero has had his super armor damaged, so he will have to joust in his skivvies. OK. A good setup. So they thunder towards each other. And what happens? Does our hero invent some anachronistic and hilarious new tactic in order to win? Does he dodge at the last moment? Did he sabotage his opponent’s lance? Does he have armor on under his shirt?
No… rather, his opponent, who never misses, just… ummmm… missed him.
I thought it was quite weak.
I just like to call her Princess von Bitchenstein.
But, as a matter of trivia, the titles “prince” and “princess” do not necessarily indicate royalty. They can apply to nobles of various ranks.
I’ll agree with this. Even a quick skim through the various King-Arthur-and-The-Knights-Of-the-Round-Table will reveal this as a common theme.
What I liked best about The Knights Tale was one of the “meta-jokes”. Ulrich von Lichtenstein was a real, historical guy.
I seem to recall that during this time Ulrich was married and had several children. I think his ideal woman made fun of him for having a harelip, for which he undertook very dangerous surgery to correct and survived. One of the other stories was that he bribed his lady’s maid to bring him her used hand-washing water, which he drank. Euw!
A Knight’s Tale is a cheesy, silly, illogical movie… that I love.
The only thing I can add, other than to point out I thought Jocelyn was red hot, is that the DVD deleted scenes include a fantastic speech delivered wonderfully by Bettany. The speech is surprisingly intelligent and moving, and Bettany does an absolutely perfect job delivering it. I suggest to everyone that, if they get the chance, make sure they catch that scene also. The director indicated that he cut it out because it was too good a speech and tended to take away from the nobility of the Black Princes’ actions. Still, it’s the best scene in the movie.
I LOVE this movie. One of the most entertaining from the last 5 years. And, it completely snuck up on me. I think I flicked on HBO one time and saw it, thinking, “Oh, I kind of remember when this came out. It looked silly.”
Favorite line (from Bettany, of course) :
“He once spent a year in silence. . .to betta understand the sound (solemn pause) of a whispa.”
And near the beginning (from memory)
“He’s dead.”
“Dead?”
“Dead. The soul is gone but the stench remains.”
I’m going to have to find that deleted scene. The speeches by Bettany are the best part of the movie. The whole movie is “suprisingly intelligent and touching” if you ask me, as well as funny and entertaining.
Bettany was truly excellent.
OK, that’s it. I’m depressed as hell today from too much tsunami coverage and a bunch of trivial stuff. Tonight, I’m going to wrap myself up in a blanket, make some of that Ghirardelli hot chocolate a certain gentleman gave me, and immerse myself in a couple of hours of dumb fun, including looking for the medieaval London Eye.
Anyone else in?
CJ
Thank you, IMDB: